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President Donald Trump on Wednesday acknowledged that his tariffs could result in fewer and costlier products in the United States, saying American kids might “have two dolls instead of 30 dolls,” but he insisted China will suffer more from his trade war.

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[–] Lembot_0002@lemm.ee -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If your suffering is negligibly small and your opponent's -- critical for him, then you can demand something.

Imagine a war where all sides are losing soldiers but one side is winning.

But in the case of China I'm not sure who will suffer more in the long run.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

But in the case of China I'm not sure who will suffer more in the long run.

Consumers in both countries, as it always is with tariffs.

[–] Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I doubt that Chinese customers depend much on imports from the USA. They might feel the overall slowering the economy until China finds a new destination for its goods, but that's it.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago

Hmm, good point. US consumers it is, then.

[–] Rin@lemm.ee -1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Well, they need work in factories which produce goods for the US customers. If no one is going to buy those goods, these people will be out of a job.

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Its extremely arrogant to expect china to stop production, just because USA stops trading with them

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Personally, i think it's an issue of the skill variety.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

can you elaborate on what you mean with this?

[–] Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

until China finds a new destination for its goods

Yes, but the USA isn't the only market. It was convenient because of its size, but nothing irreplaceable.

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You realise that the companies that will no longer want to produce in China because of the tariffs will move to India or Vietnam or literally anywhere else? Kinda like Apple and Samsung are doing.

[–] Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

And? Some will move, others -- won't. Moving industry is a huge deal. It isn't easy. And most companies understand that the problem is not China but Trump. Today Americans are required to pay additional taxes for Chinese stuff, tomorrow they will pay for Indian stuff.

Maybe you have some real numbers to analyze?