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[โ€“] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

What are you going on about? I'm not saying he should be banned from printing his ideas, I'm saying his characterizing continued Liberal rule as an unfortunate consequence of needing to stop Trump insanity is indicative that he's still his same neocon self and hasn't reflected on the relationship of his political work and the current climate.

It's ok to not pretend every op-ed is a fresh expression of ideas with no context stemming from their author's history or world view, and it's similarly ok not to treat all world views as just curious and value neutral opinions enriching a beautiful tapestry of ideas.

David Frum has been an instrumental and active shaper of the conservative-led degeneration of American values since the Bush administration. Trump is his limit, but everything in the whole rotten project before that was fine. No, we don't need to divorce the message from the messenger. The message itself is bad, but the messenger's role in the while situation deserves extra criticism.

[โ€“] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 points 4 days ago

I'm coming from the perspective of both neoliberalism and neoconservatism having failed me. I don't really care who's talking at this point unless they have solutions on offer.