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[–] Wisas62@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Maybe you should have had some forward looking into what a career would pay before investing that much into college. Hell I made more than that in my entry level job more than 15 years ago.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Just because college doesn't have an instant payoff doesn't mean it never has a payoff.

[–] r_se_random@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Let's follow your train of thought here.

Everyone makes the "smart" choice of looking into their career, and determine it based on the pay scale.

  1. Now we have a dearth of people doing the jobs with low pay, but still crucial to our society.

  2. Do you think there exists a demand for everyone to enter into the higher paying work force?

[–] Wisas62@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

See this is the problem, you're entirely missing the point. You don't have to go to Harvard to be an elementary school teacher. Harvard on average $228k for 4 years Bridgewater State $44k for 4 years. Only 35 miles apart.

This person chose to take out somewhere on the realm of $90k worth of student loans for a career that makes less than $50k per year.

I don't know anything about it, but we an example out of state tuition at Fayetteville State University is less than $25k for 4 years.

There are options and choices but people would rather take the easy way and blame someone else.

I agree college prices are out of control, but right now you have to work within the constraints available.

[–] r_se_random@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My friend, jobs like elementary school teacher don't pay enough to return the interest loans, and that's only exaggerated with the high inflation.

Entry level jobs, which are supposed to be easier are simply not paying enough to make ends meet. And that's not a problem all individuals can solve. This requires regulatory work

[–] Wisas62@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You either need to really do more research on topics before you make uninformed comments or just don't comment on things you don't know.

Mississippi the lowest paid elementary school teachers on average and it's $48k. If you went to school for $25k then you'd only have a $250 monthly payment for 10 years. Teachers should make more, but you make good decisions you could definitely live okay.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yup that's the right take. It's the literal kids who are being told they must go to college who are at fault. It's definitely not the system, not the adults counseling them about their future, and certainly not the businesses whose only purpose is aggregating wealth for a select few.

As always blame the victim and walk away. Might as well piss on it to show your dominance.

[–] Wisas62@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

That's the right take. Take zero responsibility for your own actions and blame everyone else instead.

[–] RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago

Don't have kids

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Jesus titty fucking Christ dude. People should be able to afford to shelter and feed themselves on any one job. I don't care if you're a fry cook or a neurosurgeon, everyone deserves to live with dignity and in reasonable comfort. No one cares how it was 15 years ago when you were entering the workforce. We care how it is now, where unless you won the parent lottery, you're probably gonna need two jobs out of college if you want to actually support yourself.

[–] Imalostmerchant@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At the risk of defending the guy with the bad take, op can afford shelter and food. Op can't afford shelter and food and 1000 dollars of loan payments per month.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The 1000 dollars of loan payments per month shouldn't be a thing, is part of my point. It wasn't a thing 15 years ago when the person with the bad take got their "entry level job", and it shouldn't be a thing now. People should be able to get a college education without having to put themselves into financial ruin.

[–] Wisas62@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

This comment shows how uneducated on the topic you took the time to comment on you are. Average cost of college in 2010 was $33k and $38k now. source

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also, 15 years ago entry level work was 7-10 dollars an hour. Dude walked into a "skilled" job and confused it for "entry level". Which is also a bullshit euphemism meant to keep us from realizing that many people will never leave that level of work. It's literally impossible for everyone to move up because there's fewer jobs in each level going up.

[–] Wisas62@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Entry level based on the OP comment that they are a college graduate. I didn't realize that I had to specify something that was spelled out in the OP.