this post was submitted on 27 Apr 2025
1408 points (98.5% liked)

Facepalm

3127 readers
94 users here now

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

TranscriptA threads post saying "There has never been another nation ever that has existed much beyond 250 years. Not a single one. America's 250th year is 2025. The next 4 years are gonna be pretty interesting considering everything that's already been said." It has a reply saying "My local pub is older than your country".

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago (17 children)

They're not being precise with their language, but their point is largely true. What they really mean is that the US has the oldest still active Constitution in the world. The UK has existed in a continuous government for far longer, but they don't have a written Constitution like the US does.

Yeah, it's easy to shit on Americans about being ignorant of history. But this person's point is largely true. The US has had the same constitution in effect for nearly 250 years. It is the oldest written constitution on Earth still in effect. Most nations have revolutions or complete rewrites of their foundational legal documents long before they reach this point.

And this is also why the US has such political instability right now. We have a Constitution that was written for the needs of 250 years ago. It was formed from a series of compromises that made sense in the politics of 250 years ago. At this point, we really should scrap it entirely and start from scratch. Having the world's oldest Constitution really isn't something worth bragging over; it just means you're running obsolete software.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

And this is not even true as there have been change. Black people where a quarter of a person at one point. Women couldn't vote. So to say the US has had the same law for 250 years is also bullshit.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Black people where a quarter of a person at one point.

It's worse than that. The fraction you're referring to is 1/5 and they weren't considered people at all, they were slaves. Slaves were not considered people in terms of rights, but the number of congressmen (and also EC electors) a state had added the slave population divided by five.

So slave states had more power in congress and more voting power to determine who would be president proportional to how many slaves they had. More slaves = more "democratic" power for the slave owners.

Slaves had no rights, but slave owners had more power from that evil 1/5 rule.

[–] GenerationII@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago

It's 3/5. It was literally called the 3/5 compromise. Please history

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (14 replies)