this post was submitted on 07 Apr 2025
21 points (100.0% liked)

Nature and Gardening

6870 readers
30 users here now

All things green, outdoors, and nature-y. Whether it's animals in their natural habitat, hiking trails and mountains, or planting a little garden for yourself (and everything in between), you can talk about it here.

See also our Environment community, which is focused on weather, climate, climate change, and stuff like that.

(It's not mandatory, but we also encourage providing a description of your image(s) for accessibility purposes! See here for a more detailed explanation and advice on how best to do this.)


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

If so, which fruits and other plants are you growing?

What is currently producing?

How do you manage the size of your trees?

Do you make compost, or do you only use mulch to build soil fertility?

Which climate are you in?

I'm interested to know how popular fruit forests are in this community and how others are doing it.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] wolfyvegan@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Did your Honeycrisp survive?

three sisters

You might consider Fordhook lima beans and Delicata squash. I've heard good things. Do you have purslane (Portulaca oleracea) there? If you let it colonise the garden beds, it makes a weed-suppressing moisture-retaining arthropod-sheltering edible ground cover.

Pruning hasn’t been an issue yet, but I will need to more actively manage the raspberries this year.

Yes you will, lest they begin to manage you. I recommend growing them over a fence or some wire or some sort of trellis and then pruning the ends before they can touch the soil and tip-layer themselves. Life is easier that way.

In the future I’m hoping to add lots more edible native shrubs, and maybe more trees if I can find good spots for them.

Some ideas in alphabetical order:

Last year one bin produced enough to cover about one and a half of my 4x8 ft garden beds

So you cover the surface of your garden beds with compost? That's the way. Protect the soil from erosion while keeping the nutrients near the surface where the roots can reach them. A generous layer of mulch over the winter is also helpful, especially if the beds will be vacant.

I don’t really expect to get fully self sufficient on compost anytime soon, but I’ll keep producing as much as I’m able.

Do you compost your poop? Mixed with wood shavings, that could make a fair amount of compost.

[–] xylem@beehaw.org 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the detailed response!

Did your Honeycrisp survive?

Neither of my apples have leafed out yet, which has me a little worried - though the Baldwin put out a sucker below the graft which I cut off.

Do you have purslane (Portulaca oleracea) there?

I actually do have a couple of (non-native) purslane species in the yard - I hadn't thought about using them as a living mulch, but I like the idea. One of them has gorgeous flowers.

Do you compost your poop?

Not something I feel comfortable I could do safely, unfortunately. Especially since my house is in a saddle curve where a lot of storm water flows through into some wetlands conservation land. I'd be worried about runoff. Also not sure how my town would feel about it!

So you cover the surface of your garden beds with compost?

That's the plan! I'd also like to do some cover crops and chop-and-drop this fall for mulch.

[–] wolfyvegan@slrpnk.net 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

put out a sucker below the graft

We tell the trees to grow, and they do grow, but just to spite us. (That's called "malicious compliance.")

(non-native) purslane species

I don't think that it matters at this point. Native or not, it really is a useful plant, not only for the garden, but also for those sidewalk cracks where nothing else seems to grow.

I’d be worried about runoff.

You'd only need to prevent the water from spreading it around until it breaks down. If you compost it on a small raised platform with a roof over it, you shouldn't have much issue. For any minor spillage, you can plant something around the compost platform to absorb it. Once the compost breaks down, runoff would be a concern only due to the loss of hard-earned nutrients, which you could also reduce with vegetation and mulch.

I’d also like to do some cover crops and chop-and-drop this fall for mulch.

I've heard that buckwheat can work as a winter cover crop, though I've never actually seen it done. Do you have any Acer negundo popping up? That would probably be choppable and droppable, though more suitable as mulch for the fruit trees than the garden beds. If you have any Elaeagnus umbellata in your area, you could cut it down for woody mulch as well, but I don't recommend planting it. For mulching the garden beds, some large herbaceous plant probably makes more sense, but I don't know the cold-climate equivalent of banana, and the closest things to Tithonia diversifolia probably wouldn't grow back very well. I do NOT recommend grass.

As an honourable mention... Robinia pseudoacacia is another potential source of woody mulch, but it's probably the nuclear option. I don't know if there are any cow pastures or old copper mines near you, but if so, then this could probably reforest them if you let it grow up to produce seeds. The neighbour's lawn wouldn't stand a chance. If it isn't already growing in your area, exercise extreme caution. This plant is not a toy.

[–] xylem@beehaw.org 2 points 9 hours ago

I don't have any of those species, but I do have a lot of invasive alder buckthorn (frangula alnus) which I'm cutting out and could use for mulch. Tempted to keep one or two around to coppice for trellis material or firewood/kindling since it seems to grow back pretty well.

Buckwheat and field peas are my current fall cover crop plans for later this year.