If the US truly wanted to get russia to negotiate, they would understand that the best option is a massive ballistic strike on Moscow (government/military/R&D facilities, but also key bridges and admin centres). And this would have to be done on a regular basis.

But the Americans (not only Trump) lack balls and are too ignorant to be able to negotiate with the russians.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Why would trump, a russian asset do any of the above? He really only has one real goal and it's not in Ukraine's best interest. Hell, it's not even the US's best interest. trump only serves himself and his interests align with putin.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

I am talking about American approaches to russia in general.

From my understanding (I have several friends from the US and I used to live in North America), the public (even pro-Ukraine Americans) largely doesn't understand how to deal with russians.

You have to treat them more like the Islamic state (a strong majority of russians are genocidal imperialists and many of the remainder are merely avid imperialists, albeit without open genocidal intent). You can't buy into their threats. You have understand their psyche and not buy into their fear mongering.

[–] BoulevardBlvd@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, except the part where Islamic states regularly commit genocide and respond with crimes against humanity like assad with his chemical weapons. Part of being a genocidal imperialist is a willingness to commit evil acts, like using a nuke. You're convinced for some reason that they won't resort to wmds but you have given absolutely no justification for that view

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Being genocidal and, indeed, committing crimes against humanity on a regular basis, does not make one suicidal. Any, and with that I mean any, nuclear state opting to retaliate against Russia using nukes would mean the end of Russia. No, not all of them can glass the whole landmass but there's no Russia without Moscow and St. Petersburg. No empire without its core.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I have. Look at the ~100 earlier examples of red lines and nuclear sabre rattling by the russians.

You have provided zero evidence for your arguement beyond "trust me bro".

Be clear and specific in your arguments. How is being a genocidal imperialist (taking more land and destroying local culture) the same thing as being suicidal?

Let me ask you this. Do you speak russian? Have you ever lived there?

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