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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Keep in mind, riding level polling doesn't actually exist (in any meaningful way) in Canada. What these models do is take the historical vote distribution for that riding and adjust it based on national level polling trends. Don't treat this kind of projection as remotely reliable at the riding level, it doesn't actually tell you anything about what's happening in your locality.

As always, the election is the only truly accurate poll. So get out and vote.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Don’t treat this kind of projection as remotely reliable at the riding level, it doesn’t actually tell you anything about what’s happening in your locality.

338Canada's record has been pretty darn good. Saying, "it doesn't tell you anything" is downplaying not only their historical accuracy, but also the effort they put into their methodology.

They aren't perfect. For example, I lived in Kitchener Centre where the Greens were out of 338Canada's MOE 2 elections in a row, but on the whole, they've been pretty accurate.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
  1. Cool your jets. I'm not deriding 338 or the usefulness of polling in general. Modelling is a very difficult science and 338 are very, very good at it.
  2. By their own numbers their likelihood of correctly projecting a seat goes down dramatically when one parties odds of a win aren't higher than 70%. Translated backwards that means that the projected riding level poll numbers you see become significantly less meaningful.

What this means is that while models like 338 are very good at predicting the overall trend of the election, in close or complicated races like the one being discussed they are not as indicative as people would like to think when it comes to, say, making tactical voting decisions. They are, ultimately, just making somewhat informed guesses about what these numbers are. In the aggregate those guesses tend to be right, but that doesn't mean you're getting accurate and direct data about how your particular riding is leaning, and people need to understand that.