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    [–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

    To configure most suckless tools you need to... recompile them. The readme says:

    Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it's pointless to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid questions.

    But if you are trying to compile suckless tools, you are already in too deep.

    [–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 21 points 1 week ago

    Those dudes are lost in the sauce. Nobody should be using big endian these days

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Wow. Just wow. What a bunch of utter darlings. Just let them stew in their own idiocy.

    Edit: To clarify, I mean the people who wrote this readme.

    [–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

    LOL yes, I had a look at those too when I was looking for a more minimal terminal. Noped the fuck out when I read you had to recompile the tools to configure them.

    It's not that this is beyond my skill level, but that is just so ... why would I want to do that?

    [–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Acting like this is some impossible task is a bit of a stretch. It's 2 commands.

    [–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

    It’s probably not that bad, but the attitude towards novice users is a red flag. I get not having the time or energy to respond to each and every help request, but putting that in a readme is basically telling users that they’re on their own. I think I’d get ridiculed if I started asking for help.

    It’s a good strategy if you’re trying to keep your software niche though.

    To be clear, it seems like cool software. Compiling every time you need to change your config seems excessive to me, but I think I get the vibe. There’s just no reason to be preemptively hostile to new users.

    [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    You need to edit a C header file used as a config file, and run make and use the resulting executable file. That hardly keeps out anyone.

    At the same time DWM is very convenient, and so was WMII.

    [–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    That keeps out 90% of the population. Do not underestimate how complex that is to people who aren't tech-savvy and who are used to "it just works".

    [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago

    Something having an X-Wing pic keeps out a lot of people too, cause not everyone likes Star Wars. What's your point?

    [–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I don't find it difficult, and have enjoyed sxmo on the PinePhone. I understand the suckless approach, but I do have to admit that many people that I know, even tech-savvy ones, probably would not want to rebuild to configure something.

    [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

    probably would not want to rebuild to configure something.

    It builds in a second. About DWM. It's 2k lines of C code, all they do is basic functionality. It's not some cumbersome process of setting up an environment, and then looking at running lines of compiler output as if you were some fscking Neo installing Gentoo.