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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 60 points 3 weeks ago (30 children)

Explanation: The borders of the states of Palestine and Israel were drawn by a UN committee a few years after WW2. It was the great hope that, whatever the issues of the past, rational discussion and neutral arbitration could resolve future problems without war and without bloodshed.

It, uh, satisfied neither party, immediately started a shooting war, and we're still riding this atrocity carousel to this day.

In the UN's defense, at that point, tensions were so high and everything so utterly fucked by the past ~25 years that there was probably no division they could've offered that would've gotten both parties to lay down their arms.

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I forget the details, but weren't the Brits fucking it up too before they shoved everything off on the UN?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Yeah, they made promises to the Jewish community about Zionist projects during WW1, and then after the war was over were in an awkward position of "We promised to do this to gain political support, but now we actually have to carry through 😬" and spent the next 25 years with an absolutely directionless policy regarding the Mandate of Palestine, which only contributed to the confusion and lawlessness and the increasing determination of both Zionists and Palestinians that matters could only be resolved by force of arms.

[–] BalderSion@real.lemmy.fan 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

To make things even more awkward, prior to making promises to the Jewish community, the UK had already made promises to the Arab community to provide independence to Arab Palestine in exchange for fighting the Turks.

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You shouldn't make promises you can't keep.
Home Alone 2 taught me that.

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