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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (21 children)

In 2016 it was a "Vote Against Trump Regardless Of Who It Is". It's shaping up to be that again, but this gives me hope that maybe we'll have someone we can vote for that we like... Even if just a little. Harris is no Obama in charm, but it's a step in the right direction.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (11 children)

The general election will continue to be a strategic vote against the party you don't want to win until voters come out en masse in the primaries. And those better candidates will have to actually be running in the primaries.

[–] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We actually saw this happen in 2020 in the Democratic Party. And establishment Democrats played the game to force Bernie out. We’re hearing from people that Biden wasn’t the best person to beat Trump, he was the best person to beat Bernie. That’s why they rallied around him and pulled the bullshit with Warren before Super Tuesday.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yes, that was at the top. The president can't unilaterally change state-owned voting laws. Bernie did succeed in getting more progressive candidates into the Democratic party primaries down ballot in 2018 and beyond. That pressure needs to be maintained all the way down to the state legislatures and city/county offices. We have to flip the states locally to get election reform at the state level in order to make 3rd party options viable at the national level. Focusing on the presidential race to shame Democrats into electoral reform is just an exercise in self-owning loss to the Republicans.

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