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Okay, then what’s his appeal? Being a conman? A rapist, a fraud, a habitual liar, unbelievably vain, a pedophile, a barely literate narcissist?
Being a traitor, a useful idiot, a seditionist coup-plotter, an election stealer (failed)?
His appeal is the same as Bernie's was. While most oligarchy controlled politicians refuse to recognize how shitty things are, Bernie and Trump got up and said what everyone who lives in the real world knows to be true: shit's fucked up. The difference was that Bernie recognized it's the oligarchy (including Trump, even though he's kinda his own oligarchy) that's fucking things up, while Trump just let the racists and misogynists and bigots choose whoever they wanted to blame and agreed with them. After all, he couldn't point the finger at himself (probably literally, since he's a narcissist his brain won't let him).
Basically he recognizes that their lives are shit, and gives them license to openly blame whoever they want to blame. Thanks to decades of Republican bullshit, they tend to want to blame anyone who's not a white Christian.
Do you guys not know what "appeal" means?? He is all of those things at his core, but do you think 50% of voters are like "I LOVE THAT HES RACIST!! I LOVE THAT HE LIES ALL THE TIME". Your viewpoint is ignorant and dangerous.
Lol, then what are they saying?
We know they aren't literally saying those words, but that's because they do not think they are racist.
They think it's okay to discriminate against someone because of their skin color or nationality. It's their right.
They think it's alright to impose their beliefs on others without middle ground. It's my god's word.
They think there's nothing wrong with a little sexual abuse and misconduct. Happens all the time, get over it.
They think those things, and they are of course wrong. So while they don't use the words you describe in your comment, in actuality, that is indeed what they are saying.
Even if everything you said is true - that's still not his appeal to his base. Those are things that they are comfortable writing off due to his actual appeal. His actual appeal is something that you and most commenters on reddit would never verbalize because you'd rather stick to your simplistic worldview that every single trump voter is a racist, misogynist, etc.
So whyn’cha hip us to his magical appeal then. We’re all waiting.
Feel free to Google "what do people like about Donald Trump". Nothing I say will change your mind about half the country being racist misogynists and nothing more. Just living villainous caricatures.
what do people like about Donald Trump
The Mass Psychology of Trumpism
To summarize the first search result, the answer is christo-fascism. Trump has used Christianity to make Americans swallow fascism. A lot of them are also racists and misogynists.
Christianity, for sure. But maybe if you're trying to actually find out what people like about Donald Trump, every single one of your sources being "people who hate Donald Trump" isn't the smartest approach.
I put in the exact google search you suggested. So why are you directing this criticism at me?
You're going to ignore my very reasonable response in favor of "WELL I COULD ONLY CLICK ON THE FIRST RESULT GOOGLE GAVE ME". You're unwilling to take your head outta the sand, and I'm unwilling to make any more good-faith arguments to obstinate, willfully ignorant people. Have a good one.
I have been googling since before Jan 6th thanks. I am aware that the christo-fascist takeover is on the horizon. Either list a specific source to back up what you are saying or knock it off with the backhanded good faith nonsense. The vast majority of people who vote for Trump have been lied to by the right-wing infosphere. But millions of the voters are racists and misogynists who have bought into the white replacement conspiracy theory.
https://www.vox.com/2018/8/10/17670992/study-white-americans-alt-right-racism-white-nationalists
I was able to find a source that backed up my argument, that Trump's support stems from a christo-fascist movement, with the first result of your recommend google search.
I’m not saying they don’t care about things. I’m saying they’re deliberately and in the face of plain, factual evidence, supporting a rapist who attempted a coup of the United States.
Does that make them racists and misogynists? I guess it depends if supporting racism and misogyny makes one those things.
But the racism and misogyny are anchors to what, for lack of a better expression, is trumps “appeal”. If they can’t see that, they’re either refusing to see it or are genuinely stupid, or are wildly misinformed.