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[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah someone is making crap up. “Hate” speech is still protected under the 1st amendment. Now she is a student which has more restrictions but the term all lives matter is a nice gesture since she’s seven.

The parents will win if they go to court.

[–] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

While certain words are, obscene and hateful speech (or speech inciting violence) is very much not protected under the 1st amendment:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/how-federal-law-draws-a-line-between-free-speech-and-hate-crimes

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Even your linked articlevsays it is. You just cant make specific and clear threats that you have the ability to follow through on.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Correct.

What the kid said won’t pass the sniff test in court. It’s overly restrictive on political ideology.

[–] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Then you weren’t reading clearly. Here’s another source directly from the US Courts:

https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/what-does

Obscenities are not protected. Specific words are, the way that they’re used are not always.

One again, freedom of speech is not absolute. There are limitations.

If you still can’t figure it out from this, then there’s just no getting through to you at all. That’s nobody’s problem but your own.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Considering what is “obscene” changes in society over time, it could be argued, which is not protected.

I agree that there’s nothing wrong by the image and the child seemed to mean well, but if it is deemed obscene by society (and a court of law agrees), it is very much not protected.

Definition of obscene: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obscene