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[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Anyone that builds a SPA and breaks opening in new tab or history caching and back/forward nav isn't a good frontend developer (or lacks experience, which is something that's fixable!). These have been solved problems for a long time.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, for sure, and this meme isn't trying to say that all SPAs are bad. But defaults matter, even for experts.

This meme was inspired after I had to use an SPA, which among those points in the meme, also broke using Alt+Left to navigate back. The normal back-button worked (even if it then had to load for ten seconds to re-display static content).

Which is just a typical example to me. You don't even need much expertise to figure out why Alt+Left is broken. But you have to think of testing Alt+Left, because it's broken by default.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

My friend I've been using the Internet for 27 years and developing for it for most of that time and I can promise you I've never once hit Alt+Left

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As your younger and more modern replacement, I use it regularly

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I cannot contradict my instructions to remain hidden while commenting.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I have no trouble believing that. It took quite a while before I learned of this shortcut and when I did, I was wondering why I would ever want to use it.

But I generally work from my laptop these days, without an external mouse connected, so reaching from my touchpad, the Left key is right there.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Your reason for using it was exactly my question. "I have a mouse with a built in back button, why would I want to remove my hand from my mouse and navigate with the arrow key?"

But your reason simply makes sense.

[–] llii@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can probably go back by swiping two fingers to the right on the touchpad. Maybe it depends on the OS and browser.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that works on my personal laptop, but not yet on my work laptop, because they insist on preinstalling an old, buggy OS. If that did work everywhere, I would probably be using that, but not breaking Alt+Left for whoever needs/wants it, would still be nice. 🫠

[–] llii@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Ok, that's unfortunate. But I agree, the browsers default keybindings really shouldn't be broken it's really annoying. I hate it when middle click doesn't work with some web pages. 😒

[–] NotJustForMe@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have never heard of alt+left, and I've been using the Internet since Mosaic was all the rage. Shame on me, it seems to be implemented in all browsers. How could I have missed it?

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

It's even implemented in many file managers and text editors and such. Pretty much the standard shortcut for navigating history. But yeah, hilariously it's somehow also a rather well-kept secret.