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I would for vote Kamala. I would vote for a cactus with sunglasses if it had the Democratic nomination. You would do yourself well to consider anything that is weaking the resolve of the anti-trump sentiment straight poison to your brain. We have only one job this novemeber and that is to stop trump. The Supreme Court has given him the status of king. Quit acting like your vote is sacred and start realizing your vote is your final cry before your rights are forfeited.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

genocide is not really meh

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's not like Trump would have condemned it either.

[–] flyingchaucer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Of course not. But in the American implementation of FPTP, even more so than somewhere like the UK, you must pick the lesser of two weavels.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I remember the time there was a genocide in Rwanda and then they implemented FPTP and the genocide stopped. Wish more people would learn the lessons of history.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

well, yeah. choosing between two genocidal maniacs says a lot about democracy, or the lack thereof.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Context. We are talking about a US presidential candidate.

Because of the military industrial complex there are only two types of US presidential candidates.

Ones who have contributed to some form of genocide around the world

And

Ones who have yet to contribute to some form of genocide around the world

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

this is exactly what makes it not meh, any other country would be a brutal militaristic dictatorship.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

See the "other country" part of your response. That's where context comes in.

You're right, in the most basic, duh, observational type way, the US Government is toxic to the core.

If that's validating to you, and you think we need to linger on it, you're not really ready for the discussion you are currently taking part of.

I'd like to go back in time and live there with you, with all my heart. I really can't though. So, please stay where you're at. When this goes up, fork in electrical socket sytle, we will need you.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

way to write a lot of things without really saying anything.

i'm still a bit surprised that "genocide is not just meh" has elicited such a controversial response here.

That's because you don't understand subtext.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Biden's position on Israel/Gaza isn't good, but it's entirely expected. Israel is the only real US ally in the Middle East, which means the US is going to side with Israel pretty much regardless of what Israel does for strategic reasons if nothing else. The odds we'd do anything more severe than asking nicely if they'd maybe tone it down a bit while still giving them everything they want is functionally zero.

And that's not really going to change regardless of who is president.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

so genocide doesn't matter in the face of losing their tight grip hegemony over the middle east. isn't good is a bit of an understatement. i dont think this is a fair justification for what the us does around the world.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not, but it's also not something you're going to change by voting for Biden, Trump, some candidate with no chance of winning or no one at all. Because every road leads to the US continuing to support Israel.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

exactly what i mean.