Democracy needs to be saved through democratic processes, not a lawless assassination attempt, otherwise it would be disingenious to want to protect it and its values.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I didn't even suggested you people should murder him*, just pointed how calling him enemy of democracy, second coming of Hitler and constantly droning about having to stop him is a call for stochastic terrorism, but you clearly understood it like this so the feedback checks out.

Also lmao fucking hell you call US president election mechanism "democratic"? And i won't comment on US "democratic values".

Wait you aren't even Usian lmao you absolute clown.

*FYI Marxists-Leninists usually think political assassinations are futile adventurism, since it won't change the conditions that created people like Trump. Which won't mean we wouln't be glad if some ghoul get offed.

[–] P1r4nha@feddit.de -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Haven't seen any prominent lib even use violent rhethoric in connection with pointing out Trump's dangerous plans for his second term, so I was surprised you bring up stochastic terrorism. The fact that Democrats are running a horrible candidate against him just shows that they don't take this seriously at all. Maybe that's what you tried to say in your first message.

I agree that democratic processes have little to do with US politics these days, but are you suggesting you can promote democratic values with anything outside living them (not that US politician do that, but in principle).

And it shouldn't matter where I'm from. The disaster that is the US empires fall is of global interest.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Haven’t seen any prominent lib even use violent rhethoric in connection with pointing out Trump’s dangerous plans for his second term, so I was surprised you bring up stochastic terrorism.

That's precisely how stochastic terrorism works, the big wigs never straight up call for it to have their hands clean just in case, for that they have their tabloids, their agitators, their media heads, their internet trolls. And btw Biden did said they need to put Trump into the bullseye (though he most likely didn't meant it literally, but on the other hand he promised to get rid of Nordstream back in the day and it happened).

I agree that democratic processes have little to do with US politics these days, but are you suggesting you can promote democratic values with anything outside living them (not that US politician do that, but in principle).

In principle i do but i don't see liberal democracy as desirable version of it due to it being in service of the small minority of capitalists and their stooges exploiting workers, and as such the system works exactly according to its values. I just think those real values behind that system are abhorrent.

And it shouldn’t matter where I’m from. The disaster that is the US empires fall is of global interest.

What SUPAVILLAIN said. If you're not part of the abovementioned minority or their stooge you should be dearly interested in end of the US empire.