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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (21 children)

Because if you start justifying these kinds of things, they will eventually be turned against you and next you know it, your own political representative is being shot at because their opponent's supporters are feeling threatened just as you are (whether they are truly justified in feeling threatened or not, doesn't matter).

Democracy does not work with violence.

EDIT: I'm really curious about the downvoters: do you really think murdering your political opponents is justified? The goal is to vote out the fascists, not become fascists.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Because if you start justifying these kinds of things....

Republicans have already been justifying it. It was only days ago that a Republican said [paraphrasing] "theres a revolution already going on and it will be bloodless if the left doesnt interfere".

Republicans have already been justifying the death of BIPoC, trans kids, the queer community, Palestinians and anyone who opposes their genocide.... the list goes on. And its mealy mouthed liberals that always say shit like "oh but we shouldn't start justifying using violence, even in defence" from their positions of privilege.

WTF do you think is going to happen after November, whether Trump wins or not? They have been laying out the justification for using violence for 4 fucking years and you've slept through it, hoping its just some nightmare you'll wake up from.

Democracy does not work with violence.

How do you think your form of 'democracy' was achieved? You ballot box is awash with so much fucking blood that you would piss your pants if you had a tiny inkling. And most of it is from those who your country mercilessly crushed for you to have it. You dont live in a democracy. You live in a military/prison/pharma industrial corporatist state that masquerades in a trenchcoat as a democratic Republic

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure what you're saying - since they are justifying violence, you should too? That doesn't seem sustainable, unless your goal is a civil war.

EDIT for your edit: I am not from the US so I'm not sleeping through anything, I'm just watching from the sidelines. My form of democracy was actually introduced quite peacefully, all things considered. But that's neither here nor there.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Any bloodless revolution is done through an implicit threat of violence. It is just the losing side being smart about how they lose.

I tillegg om du er dansk, vil eg påpeike at Danmark mista eineveldet sitt då dei tapte Napoleonskrigane i 1814, som også var grunnlaget for Noreg sin uavhengigheit og demokratiske grunnlov.

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