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[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I potentially see 2 Gadsden flags. Why do these assholes always seem to think that the Gadsden Flag represents them? I would like to know what their rationale is — if any.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They think it means that if you try to fuck with them, they won’t run away blubbering like a baby. They’re wrong about that.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So, please provide info that the flag doesn't equate "stance against coercion" = anti fascist?

FYI: I hate Trump, fascist, Confederate apologist, etc...

But, based on the simplistic symbolism of the flag... It could represent a fight against coercion of any ilk.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

You’re asking for evidence that the same people who also do things like wear shirts with Punisher logos on them and bumper stickers with a picture of a gun and the words “come ad take it” aren’t trying to tell people not to pick a fight with them or else?

Do you think the Nazi flag might also be a clue?

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

It could represent a fight against coercion of any ilk.

The Gadsden flag does represent resistance against coercion. That being said, context is still quite important — its appropriate use would heavily depend on why those individuals in the picture saw fit to march with it. The Gadsden flag represents individual liberty, and resistance to authoritative oppression. It doesn't represent the trampling of the freedoms of others.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Why? Anyone who stands beside a Nazi flag is not a libertarian by any stretch of the term's usage. (For clarity, by "stands beside" I mean anyone who advocates its symbolism.)

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Part of it is that American libertarianism is a Republican who wants to smoke weed.

As for these specific Nazis, they want the government to stop arresting them when they indulge in their violent hatred of minorities.

They see equality as oppression. Which is also part of the main Republican mindset.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

they want the government to stop arresting them when they indulge in their violent hatred of minorities.

Imo, this is opposite of what the Gadsden flag represents. It's a symbol of the resistance to authoritative oppression. I suppose the logic is that these types use it as a symbol of their resistance to the government preventing them from oppressing others 🤮. I suppose if one were to be absolutely accurate, though, the Gadsden flag isn't a symbol of libertarianism, but, rather, libertarianism supports the symbolism of the Gadsden flag.