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[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This sums Dico up perfectly for me. I consider myself "woke", I share the values they are advocating in Disco very much. But it's just. So. Shoved. Into. It.

It's not subtle, it's not something coming naturally to the story in most cases. It's just badly writen into a already badly written overall show.

And that, to be honest, is a shame.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hardest part of liking Disco for me was I couldn't shake the feeling they stretched Star Treks skin over another shows pilot/first season.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

This actually makes a lot of sense. You might be right.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I disagree that it's because of ''shoved'' or overt politics. It's just God awful writing and a terrible idea for a ST show. They made it a chronological story about one protagonist. There's consistent bridge crew we don't even know their names, their character or story, or even get to hear them talk besides ''there's a [thing] captain!'' Type of shit.

No ensemble stories, no stand alone stories, and very close to no science fiction at all. It's all just trying to give you high stakes action scenes with close to nothing else happening.

[–] bastion@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For a great example of this sort of thing done right, compare The Expanse books to the show.

The books kinda glossed over the head of the fucking entire earth's story and plotline. In the show, she was a highlight. Also, a few characters were merged into one female character, and women, in general, were given more prevalence. Poly relationships were given good voice, and overall, things just fit and felt natural.

That is to say: It can be done right. Disco just doesn't do right, imo.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I never watched the expanse with that angle in mind, but after you said it I have to agree. Just says something about how natural it was done when it just doesn't stand out from the rest of the story at all.