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Worried the United States could fall behind in artificial intelligence, the White House wants to encourage data centers and dedicated power plants.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (7 children)

And, let me guess, we'll need to drill for oil on those federal lands so we can power those data centers.

All for AI that almost no one wants.

[–] DurbanPoison@feddit.nl 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry, they'll probably build taxpayer-subsidised nuclear power plants for electricity which won't be available for access for the general public.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But the general public will have to pay to store and secure all of the waste and clean it up when natural disasters hit the pools.

[–] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Nuclear waste isn't stored in pools

[–] quicklime@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

Pee isn't stored in the balls. (couldn't resist)

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What?????? Spent Fuel Pools (SFPs) are the most common place it's stored. They're what ended up getting flooded and spilling into the ocean in the Fukushima disaster.

https://www.nrc.gov/waste/spent-fuel-storage/pools.html

[–] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Casks are by far, like it's not even close, the most common storage method. SFPs aren't even long term storage options.

...and no, that's not what caused the radiation leak into the ocean at Fukushima.

You people actually make me sick sometimes. I'm sure the oil industry pays you well but Christ, someone needs to DDD your bosses so we don't have to deal with you anymore.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

What are you talking about. The description in the parent site of the one I linked says specifically, "Currently, most spent nuclear fuel is safely stored in specially designed pools at individual reactor sites around the country."

And no sh*t it's not a long term storage method. But it's where most of our waste is right now in the US.

And no, I'm starkly anti-fossil-fuel, but nuclear is 100% not cleaner unless you ignore the waste entirely. There are so many renewables and other options for cheaper, cleaner energy. But companies don't count waste disposal as an operating cost (only short term storage), so nuclear looks cheap to investors because 1 million years kind of longterm isn't part of their investment strategy. And that's how long we need to be able to store a lot of this stuff unless it's fully reprocessed down to safe levels of radiation, which has proven totally unprofitable in the short-term (decades-term), so it's never been done.

https://www.nrc.gov/waste/spent-fuel-storage.html

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