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Why is gnome not so sharp like macOS? (self.linux)
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Would it be possible to have a linux DE with that high quality like macOS? The last 3 years i did a lot of distro hopping. Im really Happy with gnome and ubuntu now ( reason was the rocm Installation script for my 7900xtx). Currently i donate whenever i use a Software more frequent. So i also would pay for a such good Look like on an iMac from my wife. Currently i use 4k Resolution and coloring settings with my spyder color camera. Edit: Im talking about sharpness of font rendering

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[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 days ago (5 children)

You have to click to switch monitors but if you do it twice it registers as a double click so you have to click…wait…then click again.

You don't switch monitors, you switch windows. That is how it works for all windows. It's like that so you can click anywhere in a window to focus it without activating something in the window by accident.

You can’t close anything from the window buttons and the red and yellow buttons do the same thing. You have to go into the taskbar and right click to close them.

You can close windows with the red window button, and the yellow button minimizes a window. Absolutely not the same thing. The whole application you can close via the dock, or the menu bar, or cmd+q. Two different things.

Some apps have a single main window though which will reopen when the dock icon is clicked (e.g. Mail), but that is still different to what the yellow minimize button does. The distinction is much more useful for document style apps like TextEdit which can have multiple windows (or none, if no file is open). There is also Hide which hides the entire application and all its windows until it's activated again.

Then they took the time in Sequoia to add window tiling but it’s just such an awful experience. You have to hover over the green dot and wait for the prompt to popup and choose from a drop-down menu. WHY CAN’T YOU JUST DRAG AND DROP!?

You can absolutely drag and drop to tile windows, and there are also keyboard shortcuts for it. Check the Window -> Move & Resize menu for that.

[–] Ulrich 2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You don't switch monitors, you switch windows.

Well, theoretically yes. On a Mac, no.

It's like that so you can click anywhere in a window to focus it without activating something in the window by accident.

Why would I want to do that? Why does double-clicking suddenly remove that need?

You can close windows with the red window button

No you can't. It just minimizes them. Just like the yellow button.

You can absolutely drag and drop to tile windows

Like I said, sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. Apple does not give any fucks about consistency or intuitive design.

and there are also keyboard shortcuts for it

  1. Apple keyboard shortcuts are often 3 different keys for some stupid reason
  2. I shouldn't need them. Dragging and dropping the window should tile them just like it has in Windows for as long as I've been alive.
[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Well, theoretically yes. On a Mac, no.

Yes, even on a Mac. Necessarily so since it strictly places windows on one monitor. You're always switching to a window on another monitor.

Can you give an example of what you're talking about?

Why would I want to do that? Why does double-clicking suddenly remove that need?

So you can activate a window without first having to find a free space in the UI to click on (especially if it partially overlaps). It much increases the surface to click on to focus a window and therefore makes it faster since you can be more inaccurate in where you move the mouse.

What need?

No you can’t. It just minimizes them. Just like the yellow button.

It does not.

Can you give an example of a window that gets minimized by clicking the red button?

Like I said, sometimes you can, sometimes you can’t. Apple does not give any fucks about consistency or intuitive design.

No, drag and drop tile actions always work, even if it doesn't entirely make sense (e.g. windows that can't be resized).

Can you give an example of a window that it does not work with?

[–] Ulrich 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So you can activate a window without first having to find a free space in the UI to click on (especially if it partially overlaps)

That would make sense if they were overlapping. They aren't. There's no need to "focus" the window.

What need?

The need to focus on the window before clicking?

Can you give an example of a window that gets minimized by clicking the red button?

I don't understand the question. All of them.

drag and drop tile actions always work

No. It doesn't. I'm beginning to think you've never used a Mac.

Can you give an example of a window that it does not work with?

I can't. Because it's completely inconsistent and I have no idea why or how.

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That would make sense if they were overlapping. They aren’t. There’s no need to “focus” the window.

Window focus is important for things like determining where keyboard input goes. If you want to type text into another window that isn't focused, you need to switch focus before continuing to type so your text goes into the right window.

The need to focus on the window before clicking?

It doesn't delay the click action for a double click because it already does it for a single click, so it would be pointless to do the same for a double click. If you're double clicking, it's pretty much always because you actually want to double click on something specific in the UI.

I don’t understand the question. All of them.

Skill issue.

No. It doesn’t. I’m beginning to think you’ve never used a Mac.

I use a Mac almost as much as I use Linux, which is almost daily, right now exclusively even since I'm not at home where my Linux computer is.

I'm beginning to think you've never used any computer since you don't even know what window focus is for.

[–] Ulrich 1 points 1 day ago

If you want to type text into another window that isn't focused, you need to switch focus before continuing to type so your text goes into the right window.

No you don't, you just click the text box. Once. This works perfectly, and as expected, on Windows and Linux.

If you're double clicking, it's pretty much always because you actually want to double click on something specific in the UI.

Except it's not. It's because you're trying to bypass the annoying ass "focus" feature.

Skill issue.

Okay so we're moving onto personal insults now, I suppose.

I'm beginning to think you've never used any computer since you don't even know what window focus is for.

Every other computer I've used works normally. Only Mac has this annoying ass "feature".

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