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[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 82 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Let’s unbundle health insurance from your employer. You shouldn’t be tied to a shitty job just so you can go to a doctor.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 30 points 4 days ago

But then how can the owner class trap workers into abusive jobs while also ensuring no one has the audacity to start their own company and become financially independent? Won't someone think of the shareholders?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 3 points 4 days ago

Yes, also that.

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Leave your job and lose your insurance. Everything is 100x cheaper that way. Doctors charge very little for cash paying customers. Emergency rooms and urgent cares just write off most of it to charity and charge you a bit if anything at all. The most I’ve paid for is lab work, but that’s a few and far between and still only like 500 bucks for a full panel.

YMMV. I’ve been doing this for three years and have paid less in TOTAL than private insurance wants for ONE MONTH.

[–] diablexical@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The problem with this is if you have any actual significant health condition.

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah for sure. I think the right play is to have accident, hospital, and critical illness insurance from someplace like Aflac to cover those.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And how pray tell, are you paying for that without a job?

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I still work. I just don’t play the health insurance coverage game.

Personally I own my own business, an LLC taxed as an S-Corp, and do software dev work through that paying myself a minimal W-2 wage.

But my point is that you can leave a job without worrying about losing health insurance coverage.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That's a pretty privileged take. If someone leaves or gets fired they still need to pay for health insurance either on the public market or using COBRA. All of this is due to the fact that health insurance is directly tied to employment as it isn't funded by taxes.

https://www.bankrate.com/banking/savings/savings-account-average-balance/

https://www.insure.com/health-insurance/cobra-problems.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_healthcare

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I’m pretty sure you’re missing my point. Healthcare is cheap af when you are uninsured.

No one NEEDS to pay for health insurance. It’s just a middle class thing that most do.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Healthcare is only for the wealthy. Understood.

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Are you purposefully ignoring my info? I was homeless living in a shelter for a year. I still have a ton of friends with little to no money/income. The medical system takes care of all of them for free. With no insurance.

Having no insurance causes healthcare costs to be very reasonable and affordable. Paying for health insurance is NOT affordable.

Is there a reason you’re fighting back against this fact?