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For the record I was posting in support of inclusive language, but pointing out that context and convention matter.

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[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think it's really easy to construe "get over it" as dismissive of a marginalized group's concerns. That's how it comes across to me. If it needs context to seem less so, it could probably use better wording.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stop downvoting this dude, they're not wrong, it's a reasonable take and true in hindsight.

Thanks. I could probably use my own advice, too. That last bit of mine could have been worded better.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Telling someone to get over it is the most inclusive thing you could do. I'm not giving special treatment to you just because you're different bucko.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So would you say to women that they should just get over discrimination and harassment in the workplace because it's inclusive, for example? I'm sure you can think of some more extreme examples that go beyond that both in magnitude and into parts of a person's identity beyond gender.

Please understand that marginalized groups already receive special, negative treatment. Claiming that they're being included by ignoring those very real parts of their lives doesn't sit well with me. If you are the type of friend that ignores the suffering of the people you are close to and treats others well only so far as they are "normal" and don't require special treatment, that won't make a fuss when you call them names or make them the butt of a joke to be "inclusive", then I don't envy the people in your life, bucko.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not everything is a microagression

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Right. Most of the things that are really concerning people are macro. Glass ceilings, police killings of black people, women dying due to abortion bans, assaults on trans people. Not everything can be dismissed as a micro aggression.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This escalated pretty quickly. This is why people don't want to deal with the inclusivity club.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

So there are real injustices and acknowledging that is unacceptable? I can't think of a more ignorant take than yours.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

You're literally condemning someone for saying a cultural phrase and you want to talk about injustice. Get over it.