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The current political crisis is a competition of ideas. Specifically who can spread their ideas the farthest and the fastest. Neo-liberalism is entrenched in our society and because of that fascism is on the rise. People reflexively reject socialism without understanding that the ideas work and would improve our lives.
We need to vote for Biden in 2024, because he is going to be the Democratic nominee. But defeating Trump will not be the end of this problem. Unless we successfully perform a political revolution we are going to be in this same situation with the threat of a fascist take-over every presidential election.
We need wealth redistribution and also systemic change to our political and economic institutions. To do that we do need high voter turnout. We need people to vote for socialists and progressives in 2026 and 2028. To get those votes we need to change minds.
I personally appreciate the sentiment of this meme, because we need to be encouraging voter turnout. But the fascist movement will only grow the longer we stick with neo-liberalism. The more wealth inequality grows the more people who will be susceptible to fascist ideas.
Neoliberalism is causing fascism, therefore we need to vote for Biden, the neo-liberal...
You really managed to miss 3/4 of the argument and still commented.
you are ignoring the gaping contradiction in your argument. it isnt necessary to catch the subtle nuances of an argument that follow from a flawed premise. dont tell me "we gotta vote even harder" doesnt follow from anything said before, i will agree.
"we need to encourage fascism with neoliberalism just a liiiitle while longer, then we totally got this bro" yeah youre right im missing it
No shit
hey in 2026 and 2028, feel free to vote for whoever you want! but this time, it's too important to give up your vote for the neoliberal enabling fascism, you might get the fascist in office if you do that.
hey in 2022 and 2024, feel free to vote for whoever you want! but this time it's too important...
hey in 2018 and 2020, feel free to vote for whoever you want! but this time...
ad nauseum
Congratulations! You noticed the cycle! Here is a cookie!
Now are you going to pay your "protection" dues or are you going to get your legs broke?
They're obviously going to get their legs broke. They're standing in line for it. It's so brave!
Also, they're going to get all the rest of our legs broke. Which. Is less brave, more like, asshole.
Sure, sure comrade I get it. Say - remind me who the progressive was in 2018, 2020? What laws did they pass?
None? Really. Hm. What about 2016? None again eh. So - what, they're not very good? Utterly unelectable? Maybe they don't have corporate money so we just don't know about them? Ohhhh right - the whole thing is a dark lizard cabal and to get in you have to murder a child and eat them on pizza or something right?
Bernie Fucking Sanders in 2020, and in my state at least, in 2018 it was Beto O'Rourke. Bernie was not unelectable but was cheated by the Democratic neoliberal establishment despite a comfortable majority of voter support, as you will recall. Beto was a victim of a concerted misinformation propaganda campaign by his competitor, and an incompetent pr campaign by his own staff.
How are you gonna tell everyone "Yes, I know the neoliberals keep encouraging fascism, but if you just vote for them, fucking again, then next time, for realzies we can get the person who we actually want, is willing and able to fix things. address this contradiction, please.
I note how you threw in corporate money right next to conspiracy views as if to equivalate the two. Also, as it turns out, there really was dark pedophile cabal, so.
Oh god you’re in Texas. Mmm. Well. Yeah. Sorry. The politics there are worse than 48 other states. I can see how it might be particularly troubling to have hope.
Huh.
Epstein?
Ah. Yes. Less reptilian-satanist, more Mossad-Capitalist. Gotcha.
¯\(ツ)/¯ put whatever words in my mouth you want, not like i can stop you
Oh - well . . . Which is it?
You offer me a false dichotomy.
Oh dear.