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[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Someone died. Even if that's a billionaire from health insurance, someone dying is usually not a good thing. What is good about this situation is how it has put class consciousness in the public eye in a way that it wasn't before.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thing is, his death means he cannot kill anymore.

[–] timestatic 2 points 6 days ago

The company and system at large remains the same

[–] timestatic 1 points 6 days ago

So you can applaud that this topic has come to focus of the public without celebrating a murder right?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm glad he's dead and I know he's burning in hell.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As someone who's also glad, the falsehood that we get what we deserve after we die is a very harmful one.

Justice doesn't come naturally or in some fairy tale afterlife. Justice came to Brian because someone else saw to it that it did.

The world would be a better place if people weren't deluded into believing the universe or some imagined deity will make things fair. It's a very pretty lie, but it has equally ugly consequences.

If we want a just world, we need to make one. It won't be handled off screen for us. This life is all we get.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I agree about the gained consciousness, that's a good thing. On the other hand, being I'm firmly against death sentence (even with a trial), what I don't agree with is homicide. That's not justice. It's just vengeance. And it's a very dangerous slippery slope.

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Homicide is wrong and it can be a slippery slope.

However, the system for dealing with monopolies/oligopolies is broken. Regulatory capture has occurred. The rich shifted taxes to the poor. And a Fortune 8 company continues to kill thousands of Americans and make massive profits from doing so.

The Paradox of Intolerance tells us that letting this continue will only result in the deaths of thousands more Americans. Tolerating this behavior results in more 1000x more American deaths and inspires others to profit off the pain, misery, and death of our fellow citizens.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So how do you suggest to solve the situation when there are a lot of people who should be in jail or worse but they are rich so the government justice system does not work for them? In the lifetime of one person who's life was destroyed by the said evil person.

[–] timestatic -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Elect representatives and use non-violent acts to shape public perception so the law is changed. If it is legal and he isn't actively like murdering/torturing people I don't think you can really argue he should be imprisoned. Just my take. Also, there are no "good people" and "bad people". Its not black and white.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

How do you elect such a candidate in the US when the whole election system is controlled by the people who are the problem? Bernie was pretty moderate, fairly popular and they still ditched him from the elections twice. And to solve the problem the elected politicians have to be way more progressive than Bernie.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Killing them, of course. /s

Go head, buy a rifle and start your vengeance. Don't wait for others to do it, if you're so brave (spoiler: you're not and you're just talking out of your ass).

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget you wouldn't even be privileged to have this conversation with the billionaires who conspire to rob and then kill us every single day. The coward talking out of their ass is the one who looks at a broken power structure and can only muster a meek, "not like this." Save your speeches for those doing the real killing.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, man, whatever. This conversation is not interesting anymore.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

People like you are dangerous to those of us actually trying to make a positive change. You’d sell out your fellow man to the elites if push came to shove and we can sense that cowardice in you. Don’t expect us to be stoked about traitors. If you don’t want to help then at least get out of the fucking way.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee -1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Oh, fuck off, moron. If you think that homicide is positive change, then you values are severely off. Cowardice... LOL, please stop the cringe. Idiot.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Lol look at the upvotes and downvotes. Nobody agrees with you. You are the shame of the working class.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Any repercussions for mass social murderers is a positive change, you're whooshing the point majorly that shit doesn't work as is. You seem to be happy with the current situation, which is about as tone deaf as can possibly be in this era. Your ad homs aren't doing your virtuous warrior persona any favors either. Cringe.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 0 points 5 days ago

Shut up, idiot. Stop bothering me, if you can't use your small brain. I've lost interest in talking to retards ages ago.

[–] timestatic -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yet again claiming moral righteousness while promoting murder. Positive change will come through democratic and legislative change. Violence leads to chaos and disturbance. When people like you come to power they use everything to undermine and disrupt critics. How can you label a person a traitor simply for disagreeing with violence? Every single country that became communist has just created a new elite and ruling class. Don't pretend you're the good one.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] timestatic -3 points 6 days ago

Seems like the comment writes itself