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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -4 points 2 days ago (8 children)

So instead of being a good apple you want to see and very easily achieving 90% of all of your political stances by voting blue, you want vigilantes to start killing people in the street all across the nation?

Thats just stupid.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (7 children)

They stopped being able to achieve my political stances. That's why I'm done with them. I am a strong advocate of harm reduction, but the Democrats failed when Trump won. At a local level, it still matters, but at a national level, they're all irrelevant now.

I just recognize that the rules changed; you're still living in the past.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Lmao

I see people like you trying to change the rules because the game is too hard. Like a child.

The Democrats didn't fail us. We failed the Democrats. We didn't show up to the polls.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nah, the rules aren't changing because we're throwing a tantrum. Trump is a fascist dictator who will make the legislature powerless. Again, you're living in a fantasy of stability. The entitled attitude of the liberal establishment is why Harris lost. They were expecting a free lunch; no radical policies in a system that needed it. People weren't smart enough to direct their anger, but still smart enough to know things were only getting worse.

I'm extremely insulted that you claim "we" failed the Democrats, when minoritized people like me from solid blue states never could've voted any harder. We couldn't have campaigned harder. We couldn't have tried harder. We were the only fucking people trying to make liberal democracy work, but the rich got tired of us. You're a genuine asshole for saying something so out of touch.

When the rule of law crumbles, I can only hope that you help those who need it more than you. I won't care less about saying I told you so. Just get with the program.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm helping those in need now, while you work to destroy the systems that they rely on.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not gonna destroy shit. The Republicans will do that on their own, no matter what we do. We need support that isn't tied to electoral politics; decentralized and resilient. NGOs for healthcare, food, housing, protection from the state.

Eye for an eye makes everyone blind, yet it's better than sighted lords ruling over the blind. There will be need for forgiveness, but not now. Retaliation serves a purpose against those who will bully and steal. If the teacher down put the bully in their place, the kid must meaningfully fight back to end the abuse. No amount of groveling will ever stop fascism; only power and violence.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe the Republicans would destroy less shit if we all got our fucking act together and stopped letting them get into office.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree, if by getting our shit together, you mean making strategically sound decisions. The Dem leadership has made so many poor calculations recently because they're so out of touch. Getting our act together would have required expanding into the low propensity voters instead of begging to the right. The Dems always had better policies, but suck at selling themselves because they play too safe.

The establishment are cowards who I don't trust at all to not fight progressives more than fascists. They'll agree to awful shit and bargain away our rights, something they've been doing already. Biden let trans healthcare falter for veterans, while the Harris campaign all but ignored us. They stayed quite against transphobic attacks when they used to stand strong; all because they wanted to appeal to never Trumpers.

We're only one example of their disdain for any change. They see us as expendable so long as they throw us bones, much like the all left wing interests. They'll need to be bold to win against fascism, so we need to demand more boldness than ever before. If corrupt governors like Newsom want a career, they better have genuine fear of assassination by Trump. They might do it, but only if they realize how conditional left wing support is.

[–] shani66@ani.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

you know, you are both names on lemmy i recognize, but for you its is because you are just awesome. obviously correct and eloquent enough that their disagreement is really much more obviously in bad faith. respect!

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