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[–] trajekolus@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I do understand those arguments, and the US has been a true ally to Ukraine - much more than the Europeans who generally didn't spend as much as they should have, and sometimes added additional layers of caution (Olaf Scholz in particular).

But if you take a "don't criticize us" attitude, you won't be open to any lessons that might be learned. The lesson I hope the West, Europe in particular, would learn is that timidity and weakness invites aggression from someone like Putin.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don’t forget that not all aid and support is publicly shared , especially from countries that are within firing range of Putin. It’s actually amazing what we do hear.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I know Poland in particular has covertly (and often just quietly) gifted Ukraine quite a number of things. Including tanks and aircraft before anyone else had. It was real confusing for me when Germany was holding off on providing tanks because they didn't want to be the leader/first, meanwhile Poland had been providing tanks to Ukraine for awhile already.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

I dunno, I feel like there's a distinction between being timid and being cautious. Yeah we all wish things could have ramped up much faster and knocked Putin back to his bunker like a coward, but if we had misjudged his readiness then there might not be a Ukraine left today. We know better now, and I think Russia's disastrous ICBM testing gave everyone a good idea of what to expect. And the fact that they're not turning to North Korea of all places for support? Yeah it's not looking good for Russia's military.