Aka US didn't care for Ukraine to win, the goal is to weakem Russia so US provided just enough aid to Ukraine to do this while Ukraine lost initiative so it is now forced to negotiate on US terms.

None of this is to excuse EU behavior as it is their war and we keep 40k troops in Germany alone to defend it against Russia lol

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, and they were given artillery shells. They were also initially given short-range missiles to limit the range of attacks so Russia couldn't claim we were arming Ukraine for an all-out attack on Russia. And then as more information came in about the state of Russia's military, better missiles were supplied.

The whole point of this was to prevent provoking Russia into a full nuclear launch. It's only been two years, did you seriously forget the concerns with the US getting involved at all? Russia claimed to have the largest arsenal of nuclear weapons in the world, and there wasn't much solid information to contradict that claim. It sounds to me like you think everyone should have risked a global nuclear meltdown against a small man who acted like he was the toughest kid on the block, rather than playing it safe in case he really did have all those nukes ready to launch. Sure, NOW we know better, but in February of 2022 there was still a reason to believe he had the capacity, and we certainly know Putin is mad enough to have pulled the trigger.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You keep repeating these talking points like a broken record.

Biden admin policy was either a failure or intentionally idiotic.

Sullivan fuckef up. Cope.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 17 hours ago

Talking points... Sure. As if I'm some kind of mouth piece for the current administration. God forbid somebody should have individual common sense opinions about the things that are happening in the world. Maybe come back when you've grown up enough to actually understand the diplomatic necessity of what I'm talking about, because it seems like your whole viewpoint is "throw caution to the wind and burn down the world".