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When the right wing voters didn't like what their elected leader were doing, they primaried them with more ideologically pure leaders.
Left wing voters just bitch and moan but take no action proving that some of the qualities the right claims of the left, like being lazy and entitled are true.
The magas have no problem voting for good enough.. Dem base consistently let perfect get in the way of good... And various factions have a different definition of perfect.
What fucking primary?
The primary every congressional district has. The right ran some crazy fucks against some well established right wing politicians so where is the left's version of this.
Everyone hung up on the presidential primary is failing to heed our own advice to the people who vote for a third party as a protest against the Democratic Party.
They are doing that. At least they did in my state.
The one that exists in the argument but not in reality. Keep up. It's straw man season
Primaries are internal party elections that determine what candidate a party will support for presidency. In US generally speaking the Democratic Party primaries are open or semi-open, so every voter can participate.
For example, in lasr Dem primaries approximately 10 million people vited for Bernie Sanders, 2 for Elisabeth Warren, and 20 for Biden, which amounts to less than 20% of registered voters.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with multiple billionaire backers like Trump and Thiel pushing their candidates.
Must just be that the left doesn't care in comparison.
The billionaire backers came after the crazies won against right wing encumbrants.
thiel has been doing thiel things for decades. others too.
This is exactly the attitude I am talking about. You've given up without trying.
Thiel is not a boogeyman.
What billionaire funded AOC?
nothing in your response is actually a response to me. What do you think you're even responding to?
LOL
Okay buddy.
Did you read the article? They’re saying that’s possibly what lost AOC some favor with the dem leadership, that she was supporting progressive primary challengers.
I've been thinking the same thing. The current form of the Republican party that is MAGA is clearly influenced by the Tea Party movement. The Wikipedia entry say the movement dissolved and doesn't say what legacy it left. But in hindsight, it is clear that it made the Republican party evolve into MAGA that it is today.
The Democratic Party should have its own MAGA movement but from the left. The American left only seem to be animated if the candidate or leader is deemed progressive enough. They don't seem to actively try to influence the Democratic Party themselves unlike what the right did to the Republican Party.
The tea party was astroturfed. There's no wealthy PACs propping up a movement of soc dems like AOC
I don't know. It's not directed at you but I think anyone who disagrees with a movement would always find ways and angles to smear it.
Nonetheless, many of what had been advocated by the Tea Party movement-- both social and economic policies-- are still visibly present and implemented by MAGA. So I think even with astroturfing, the goals of those involved in Tea Party had their way.
That's basically the point though, right? Without astroturfing the tea party probably wouldn't have grown into maga. Compare the occupy wall st movement (as mentioned below)-- there was no corporate backing so it fizzled as soon as popular support couldn't sustain it. But money kept pumping into the tea party and it eventually metastasized into maga.
What I find hilarious is that every "progressive" leader that does make their way in ends up being a Republican/Russian puppet. (See Sinema/Fetterman).
Proves horseshoe theory is real. The DNC doesn't care about you guys because you've shown you don't care about the DNC. Bitch all you want but why should they try to pursue lazy kids who bitch and moan but don't vote when it counts or protest vote.
That's why the DNC drives further right because at least that voting base actually consistently votes.
Growing up with these movements, it felt like the Occupy Movement could have been that, but it was smeared by The Powers That Be alongside infighting or a focus on strange parliamentary procedure. It helps with cops also are on your side (Tea Party).
I don’t think the left makes enough persistent noise at their leadership compared to the right. I’m really proud of the recent strike announcements from Unions & hope they stick through the tough shit.
I volunteer in municipal work on a town board local to me. It’s not much, but there’s a few chuckleheads “from the private sector” that think they know everything in five minutes. If you put hard facts and actually argue them in proper settings with conviction, you can at least have a voice in the bullshit around you.
Have Republicans ever had any primary corruption controversies, like that whole superdelegates thing?
The corruption is their goal.
Ron paul 08
I'm not sure where you're going with a thus since I'm referring to primary if congressional leaders and you're hung up on the presidency, another weird thing we only do on that left.
The right did have a candidate that refused to participate in their party's debates and threatened the party's leaders so there is something there but it's not a fair comparison since the left isn't good at authoritarian demagoguery.