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Do you know any albums with leitmotifs? (slrpnk.net)
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I know that there are countless amount of movies/games soundtracks with leitmotifs, but other than that I've never found albums with leitmotifs.

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It does, the overture doesn't only introduces later songs (through leitmotifs), it reuses them again for a reprise and a finale. Other examples include Metropolis part II: scenes from a memory, which is almost a musical, including characters, scenes and acts, and A change of seasons, where leitmotifs are not for characters but concepts.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It does, the overture doesn’t only introduces later songs (through leitmotifs), it reuses them again for a reprise and a finale.

yeah what I'm saying is I don't think that's really what a "leitmotif" is.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

How is it not?. If anything, DT's instrumental use of leitmotif for composition is more classical and predates the crude and vulgar current interpretation of leitmotif="this character is on screen".

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

A leitmotif or Leitmotiv[1] (/ˌlaɪtmoʊˈtiːf/) is a "short, recurring musical phrase"[2] associated with a particular person, place, or idea.

I don't think any of DTs recurring musical phrases are "associated with a particular person, place, or idea." Like there has to be more to it than recurrence to be considered a leitmotif. Recurrence in music happened a lot for various reasons before the idea of leitmotifs, so if you use the term generically to that extent it loses any meaning.