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[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My answer is that we have to work with the best evidence available because informed decisions lead to better outcomes...

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is that so? And what does "informed decision" mean to you?

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Making a decision based on the best evidence available... I feel like I'm repeating myself. Oh, I see. You're trolling.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Is everyone who challenges your ideas a troll? Sorry. I'm still not trolling you OR arguing just to argue.

And let's talk about the best decisions. Did Vlad The Impaler think it was the best decision? What about Ghengis Khan? Kubla Khan? Nobunaga Oda? Mitsuhede? Washington? King George? The list goes on and on... So who's right, and who's wrong?

They all had the best evidence available, yet thought that the best way was to oppose a different idea

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Then what are you saying? That we paralyze ourselves?

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What I'm saying is the best evidence available might not be the right evidence

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So when do we make decisions?

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All the time, but every aspect should be considered. For example, there was one commenter in this chain that mentioned the potential of bacterium on Mars. If they exist and we land on Mars then we inadvertently impact said bacterium and potentially impact Mars on a scale that we can't comprehend or at the very least understand. Is that right or wrong?

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sure, we should consider the possibility of life on Mars. But we've already impacted possible organisms by sending spacecraft there. Even if you sterilize your craft in an autoclave and send it through the vacuum of space for months to years, there's no guarantee that all terran organisms will be inert. Samples taken from an asteroid during the recent Hayabus-2 mission were found to have terrain organisms on them. If you want to completely cordon off martian ecology, you should've convinced NASA and the Soviets back in the 70s.

Bottom line is, we've already irreversibly changed the course of martian ecology, if there is any. What remains? Check if there's actually anything alive over there. The best way to do that is with boots on the ground. The best places to look for life on Mars are:

  • deep within the crust, deeper than any robotic probes can dig
  • deep under the polar ice caps
  • deep in caves and lava tubes

All of which are much easier to explore with humans.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, I suppose that's subjective.