The original idea behind school isn't to educate the masses. Why would a factory worker need to know calculus and Shakespeare? He needs to read the clock and timetables, be on time, wake up in the morning early enough to be punctual, ...

Likewise higher education isn't about the thinks you learn. It is about learning methods to learn. If you can learn the nitrogen cycle, you can learn our scrum statuses. If you can hand in your homework in time, you can keep our deadlines.

This isn't to say the system is good, but it helps to understand it when you want to criticize it.

[–] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Cant you find out the answer for these questions with a series of short tests?

I once applied for a job at IBM and instead of an initial interview they sent me a series of interactive tests to check my skills. I ended up moving to another country and didn't follow through, but still liked this approach.

Also in the EU I can see lots of job listings are using now a system where you either have a certain type of education/degree or a certain previous experience to be eligible to apply.

Still you need to have knowledge of the specific field, but technically if you started at the bottom with an entry level low skill job you can get higher with experience alone and without a university degree.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can they? Yes. Absolutely. 100%.

A local factory likes people with college degrees, any degree, no matter what college or course, but also offer tests twice a year in large groups for exactly the reason that plenty y of people are qualified, and can do everything they need, but never went to college.

Will they? Probably not unless it's a niche employer. Why bother going through the extra effort when you can just say "degrees only" and turn your nose up at anyone without one?

[–] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I guess 5 rounds of 90 minutes long multi-stage interview process is much more efficient, where people selling an idealised version of themselves in imaginary scenarios.

Also talking to HR/recruitment department, who has no idea of the actual job is a great way to find the right candidate.

...its ridiculous

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I hate interviews. I've been on both sides and neither is fun.

One person is pretending to be what they think the employer wants. The other is trying to figure out who's the least full of shit.

I just generally hate situations where everybody is expected to be fake, and not playing the "right character" will get you shunned.

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