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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The wealthy donate to both parties

If Dems ran a candidate voters want. They'd get majorities in both houses, not long till super majorities.

And then there's no excuse not to do what voters want.

Moderate Dems want to win, but only by so much they're not able to do anything in office.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Was looking for this comment so I didn't have to type it out. It's never about winning for Democrats because then they'd have to actually do what they said they would. It's much more convenient to have the Republicans blocking everything they do while they're in power so they can then demonize them.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They bet on themselves to win, but not cover the spread...

I don't know why people don't see it after 2020.

Biden promised to pass the platform thru a R Senate, that was the entire reason he gave for being the nominee, working with republicans . Then the GA runoffs came up and we might get 50.

So he said with 50 D senators, he could pass the party platform. Which wasnt what he just said, but the whole country still got behind it and we got 50 D senators.

Then like a week into office, he flat out said anyone who thought 50 D senators was enough to do anything was naive and didn't know what they're talking about. Then he even said that trying to change a senators mind was a waste of time so he wouldn't bother trying...

And here we are, four years later, acting like we dont know why Biden is unpopular.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

And Obama was the same way. Ran on big structural change (although somewhat vapid in content), then the first thing he does is bail out the banks with taxpayer money. Then spends 8 years complaining about McConnell. His major achievement was passing a minor healthcare package that basically became a Republican talking point.

It's honestly a well-oiled machine, and it has been since Truman.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If Dems ran a candidate voters want

Joe Biden won the democratic primaries in 2020. He may not be what most voters wanted, but he was the least objectionable candidate for many people. Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Michael Bloomberg, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar and Tulsi Gabbard all ran, and most didn't win a single state.

Who is this mysterious candidate that "voters want" who chose not to run?

The 2020 primaries should have been a wake-up call to a lot of people that what they thought voters wanted wasn't actually true. There are a lot of socially conservative democratic voters out there.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 4 months ago

Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Michael Bloomberg, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar and Tulsi Gabbard all ran, and most didn't win a single state.

Only 4 fucking states had their primaries before most of those names were told to drop by the party and Biden only won 1 of them!