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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nintendo is at its best when doing something no other game developer would do, and getting laughed at until everyone realizes how great it was in hindsight. What's new about Switch 2?

[–] az04@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

INB4 it's gonna be a repeat of the Wii U. A confusing, non compatible successor to a revolutionary product.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

INB4 it’s gonna be a repeat of the Wii U. A confusing, non compatible successor to a revolutionary product.

A bit too revolutionary. Wii had a seriously bad attachment rate. People bought Wii Sports, Mario Kart and Smash. Regular games sold badly. Wii was a party gimmick that collected dust on regular days. Wii U was the attempt (later fulfilled by Switch) to be a regular gaming machine as well.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yes but the main reason those consoles were so shaky is specifically because they did not address a much younger audience. The original Wii kind of tried to but if you look at its best sellers, a ton of them were not aimed at adults.

The same is true of the Wii U where rather than targeting that audience, they tried to pivot to a more adult console with games like the zombie launch title.

So most of the success of the switch is just that it finally was a family console again. But keep in mind, they have nowhere to pivot to. That’s why the switch 2 is what it is and why it’s so late. They can’t afford a misstep and they also can’t afford to saturate the only market niche they have left.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think I've read backwards compatibility is confirmed, which these days there's no excuse not to.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I think I’ve read backwards compatibility is confirmed, which these days there’s no excuse not to.

I think they confirmed that during a message to investors.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

until everyone realizes how great it was in hindsight.

I don't think anyone does or ever did think that the Tegra chip was "great". Lots of things to commend Nintendo on for the Switch, I don't think that choice was one of them. It was an old chip when they first got it, and they was like 8 years ago.

It's also one of the reasons so many people pirate, because the Switch has dogshit performance and all of their games look so much better on other hardware.

But yes, I agree, it should be no surprise that they're not competing with the Steam Deck. And they don't need to.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think their choice of chips was what they meant. The Wii's motion controls, and the Switch's portable/docked modes and removable controllers are.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

None of those have anything to do with performance...

[–] moody@lemmings.world 3 points 2 months ago

Nor did the comment you replied to previously. It was about how Nintendo innovates in other ways.