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So there's a ton of countries that I've heard have had truly unaffordable housing for decades, like:

  • The UK
  • Ireland
  • The Netherlands

And I've heard of a ton of countries where the cost of houses was until recently quite affordable where it's also started getting worse:

  • Germany
  • Poland
  • Czechia
  • Hungary
  • The US
  • Australia
  • Canada
  • And I'm sure plenty others
  1. It seems to be a pan-Western bloc thing. Is the cause in all these countries the same?
  2. We've heard of success stories in cities like Vienna where much of the housing stock is municipally owned – but those cities have had it that way for decades. Would their system alleviate the current crisis if established in the aforementioned countries?
  3. What specific policies should I be demanding of our politicians to make housing affordable again? Is there any silver bullet? Has any country demonstrably managed to reverse this crisis yet?
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[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

Austria has, with widespread high quality public housing.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/jan/10/the-social-housing-secret-how-vienna-became-the-worlds-most-livable-city?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

There are some waitlists and whatnot still, but arguably the bigger impact is that the increased housing supply has kept private rents very affordable too.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

the increased housing supply has kept private rents very affordable too.

This is very good.

Do you know if Austria had an Ireland-style house price problem before they did this (ie. would it halt the crisis in Ireland now), or is it more that it just prevented the crisis we see in surrounding countries from happening in Austria in the first place?

[–] ECB 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They've been building big public housing since the 1920s. I live next to a lot of it and it's quite high quality and really pleasant.

Lots of cities/countries has massive public housing (the UK being a great example post WW2) but Vienna is more of an exception in that they didn't follow the trend in the 70s-90s of privatization and stopping investment (although it did slow down at one point).

They were the same way about their tram system, where they kept it rather than ripping it out like most places. Now everyone else wishes they so had a tram network or is trying to rebuild one.

That being said, rents are rising here too, but they are much more reasonable to begin with. I was living in London previously, and now we spend about 30-40% less for a place over twice the size and in a nicer location. Plus finding a place was muuuuuch easier, since it's noticeably less competitive.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

We still reduced our tram system quite a bit from what it once was; not to zero like e.g. West Berlin did, but lots of places where trams used to run now have bus or metro lines running instead.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just adding to this, some history if anyone is curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Vienna

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is genuinely cool. I love that they managed to do it within the framework of democracy too.

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