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Jeez Biden now has a choice in my opinion, fighting a two-way battle against a united Republican party and the other half of the dissenting Democrats or swallow his pride and pass on the baton to someone that could be more convincing to voters than Trump. Biden was the right choice against Trump in 2020, because he won by convincing voters he was way more capable than Trump. Now in 2024 is he still as convincing.
Usually a smart person changes course if they see their current trajectory will lead to failure, a proud person will continue their trajectory even if it will lead to failure, and try and try again until they succeed. The proud person might succeed some of the time, the smart person will succeed most of the time
I hate these arguments because they only focus on Biden.
TRUMP SAID LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE during the debate - oh, but Biden is the problem?!
Just go out and vote, and Trump will go away.
Don't vote, or do a protest vote and you'll regret being this dense later.
Just ... No. Of course Trump spews lies, what's changed over the last 10 years? Nothing. And he'll get his base to cast ballots.
What has changed is the capacity of President Biden to hold office. It is absolutely mind boggling how tone def Dem leadership is.
This election will be won by compelling undecideds and independent voters to cast a ballot, full stop. It's a fallacy to think these voters will be compelled purely on policy. Perception is reality, and the perception from any sane person after watching things unfold the last two weeks is that Biden is not fit to carry on as President. Period.
You want Trump to win? Keep Biden in the race. "Trump worse" messaging will blow up in their faces, just like it did with Hillary. We need a compelling alternative.
Once again, Jon Stewart hits the nail on the head...
This is a weak premise because of what you said earlier:
And what you're saying is that those same "sane" people as you call them, would rather have Trump in power? Please.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. My point is, I do not believe you can compel people to vote at all based on 'Trump bad'. They'll just stay home. I am not including people who regularly vote. If you want to get people in line to vote, there needs to be a more compelling candidate.
It sounds like we'll both find out who's right in Nov.
Trump lost the popular vote in 2016.
And he lost to Biden in 2020, because people saw that he sucked.
2024 is not comparable to 2016. It's comparable to 2020, in the sense that most Americans do not want Trump. They will not stay at home.
Switching candidates now is very risky.
And this is coming from someone who would have preferred Bernie Sanders to face Trump in 2016 and in 2020.