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[–] FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A key distinction is that you can hold human drivers accountable and bring them to court. But nobody wants to die because of a glitch.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

I'd argue that human drivers are absolutely not held accountable in the US. When my buddy was killed by a driver texting in a giant SUV they gave the driver a small fine and called it an "accident".

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would respond that in court, the traffic laws are the traffic laws. It looks like the pedestrian is the accountable party here. But from a pedestrian perspective, cars that are only dangerous if you're jaywalking are objectively an upgrade.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

Reminder that paint isn't infrastructure so if you want people to use the "crosswalk" then it needs to be raised up and it needs a protected middle if you have to cross multiple lanes. If you make the crosswalk actually safer to use then people will use it.