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In my (European) country now we can have a digital copy of the driving license on the phone. It specifically says that it's valid to be presented to law enforcement officers during a check.

I saw amazed in the beginning. They went from limited beta testing to full scale nationwide launch in just two months. Unbelievable. And I even thought "wow this is so convenient I won't need to take the wallet with me anymore". I installed the government app and signed up with my government id and I got my digital driving license.

Then yesterday I got stopped by a random roadblock check and police asked me my id card. I was eager to immediately try the new app and show them the digital version, but then because music was playing via Bluetooth and I didn't want to pause it, i just gave the real one.

They took it and went back to their patrol for a full five minutes while they were doing background checks on me.

That means if I used the digital version, they would had unlimited access to all my digital life. Photos, emails, chats, from decades ago.

What are you are going to do, you expect that they just scan the qr code on the window, but they take the phone from your hand. Are you going to complain raising doubts? Or even say "wait I pin the app with a lock so you can't see the content?"

"I have nothing to hide" but surely when searching for some keywords something is going to pop-up. Maybe you did some ironic statement and now they want to know more about that.

And this is a godsend for the secret services. They no longer need to buy zero day exploits for infecting their targets, they can just cosplay as a patrol and have the victim hand the unlocked phone, for easy malware installation

Immediately uninstalled the government app, went back to traditional documents.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We have that app and I never give my phone to anyone. Nobody asks me for it, not even the cops. They just note the details and take it with them.

Oh, and the cops don’t care about your photos or messages when all you’ve done was exceed speed limit by 10km/h.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In normal countries

Police in the US have admitted that traffic stops are just a way to search people and find bigger charges. Cops like that are absolutely nosing around your phone.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lets not bring that capitalist dystopia to a discussion about functional countries.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Germany in the meantime: „leftist extremism is threatening the democratic system“ [quote from the constitution protection agency] while fascist crimes outnumber them 5 to 1. All that while the EU keeps trying to sneak chatcontrol by us through the backdoor, again and again.

I dont have that much hope for our world tbh.

[–] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

TBF, Germany has been one of the countries often opposing Chatcontrol, so there's at least that.

Do you have a link for the 5:1 fash vs commie crimes? Not doubting, just want to read more.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Check the site https://verfassungsschutz.de

There you have sections leftist and fascist extremism and numbers to go along. Leftist crimes are around 4k, fascist around 23k iirc in the recent past (2023)

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In the US they need probable cause. Just leave your window rolled up and give them the finger when they knock. They'll puff and shout, but eventually they'll let you through. Be sure to film it and make it clear you're filming

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

They really won't though. I'm going to believe the body cam footage of them breaking windows and hauling people out of cars over edited YouTube footage.