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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

obama didn't legalize same sex marriage; the supreme court did

[–] AirDevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Granted, you're technically right. Support for it was certainly a large part of Obama's campaign though. It's unclear what the overall result would have been for Obergfell vs Hodges with an administration that would have been vitriolic to the ruling.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.

-- barrack obama 2008 during his campaign.

[–] AirDevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Voted against DOMA and eventually repealed it. There were some weird semantics about naming nomenclature of calling it a marriage in the early 2000's. During the primaries he gave vague answers about some religions being opposed to it but did flip from earlier statements about same-sex marriages in his earlier career

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Voted against DOMA and eventually repealed it.

doma was voted and enacted in 1996.

obama entered federal politics in 2008.

the supreme court invalidated doma in 2015.

doma was repealed in 2022

[–] AirDevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're right and I'm misremembering how it happened. I really thought DOMA was later. I'm not sure the distinction between invalidating in verse repealing it. He may have seemed more pro-LGBTQ since others were more outwardly against it.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I’m not sure the distinction between invalidating in verse repealing it.

in practical terms:

  • the repeal had no impact and was done by a congressional act that gave anti-lgbtq bigots legal protections for their bigotry; it was little more than political theater to make democrats seem more progressive on an issue that they chose wrongly (and cover biden's ass) in 1996.
  • the invalidation meant that i could sponsor my life partner for citizenship, but he had already been deported years prior and he was (barely) young enough to know that he had enough time to rebuild his life with someone else and did so; while i was too old and autistic to make getting back on that horse a reality.

He may have seemed more pro-LGBTQ since others were more outwardly against it.

i suspect there's a blind spot when it comes to democratic voters and lgbt issues; it's assumed they're more gay friendly unless you're bitten by their anti-gay policies.