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Edit: to clarify: the message in the ad is actually ironic/satirical, mocking the advice for cyclists to wear high-viz at night.

It uses the same logic but inverts the parts and responsabilities, by suggesting to motorists (not cyclists) to apply bright paint on their cars.

So this ad is not pro or against high-viz, it's against victim blaming

Cross-posted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/113544508246569296

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[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bikes have lights too though?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (6 children)

That is not a requirement, you to have to have front and rear reflectors, I don't remember if side reflectors are required or not.

One thing that a lot of bikes has that is illegal here but ignored by the police, is a flashing front light.

Rear lights can absolutely be flashing, but front lights can't.

[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 28 points 1 day ago

Depends on the country you live in 😂 here they are absolutely required and also are not allowed to be blinking.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

They are actually required at night. https://www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/vagtrafik/Trafikregler/Cyklist-mopedist-motorcyklist/Trafikregler/Regler-for-cykel/

Reflectors are also required.

And yeah the rear light are allowed to flash.

I still agree that cars are way more visible.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is not a requirement

It is, actually: https://www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/vagtrafik/trafikregler/cyklist-mopedist-motorcyklist/trafikregler/regler-for-cykel/

You're liable to pay 500 SEK if you bike without lights when it's dark outside.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Ah, nice, I didn't know that!

[–] aulin@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The front lights are allowed to flash in Denmark and it's super annoying, and dangerous in my opinion. The lowest allowed blinking frequency is also way lower than rear lights in Sweden, so it's like being flashed by a camera repeatedly.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 2 points 19 hours ago

I still don't understand why lights even have a flashing option

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As others have said, this depends on the jurisdiction.

In the UK, you have to have lights on at night: white at the front, red at the back. They can either be steady or blinking.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think you're also supposed to have orange reflectors on pedals which is consistent with orange flashers for slow traffic.

but I find it hard to buy decent pedals that actually met this requirement.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 hours ago

Yes, particularly difficult with clipless pedals, such that strictly speaking I think it's illegal to ride at night with them!

[–] DV8@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In Belgium at least they are required (reflectors aren't on all styles of bikes), problem is that cyclists often have battery powered lights which are not very bright to the point you could say they are not even working. And in my experience it really renders cyclists invisible at night until you almost run into them.

In that sense high-viz vests definitely help because they usually make them stand out more than even normal lights.

Ofcourse this is mostly needed in the places with no separate infrastructure and no street lights. (Edit: which is what the situation is in near where I live, the shortest route to bike is through farmlands with no infrastructure for bikes and no streetlight ms for sections of it. I'd personally love better and separate infrastructure since it's basically part of the reason why avoid biking there during the lang dark winter)

[–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their visibility is quite different tho

[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

So is their mortality rate when they hit a pedestrian, and their speed.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 4 hours ago

And what would be the point of your comment? The lights on a bike are for protecting the bike from cars, not pedestrians from bikes.