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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not like businesses can just not use Excel or whatever. Microsoft has everyone by the balls and they know it.

[–] mortimer@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

LibreOffice. I'm surprised anyone uses any Microsoft product these days given that they shit all over their users.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Many of my macros / vba code can't run on LibreOffice.

[–] Kissaki@programming.dev 3 points 16 hours ago

Because they're done with specific ms-office macros or because libre-office has no equivalents?

It may not be an immediate 1 to 1 switch with extensive or specific macros, but I would imagine it would be possible and no worse after migration?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 19 hours ago

Excel is a brilliant program, some may even call it excellent.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Businesses run on Excel. While it's feasible (if painful) to replace Word or PowerPoint, replacing Excel is just out of the question.

[–] Kissaki@programming.dev 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

From what I hear from my brother working in a bank, they should be using databases and data querying instead of excel. What excessive excel use leads to, at least in such cases, is awful flimsy practices, certainty and stability.

The financial data and its accumulations run through multiple excel files referencing others. Traceability requirements that they have to guarantee by law are an issue; I wonder if they'll be able to implement them with Excel at all.

Businesses running on Excel is certainly factual. But I have to wonder whether it's necessary of even a good solution for their work.

If they're deep and wide into Excel, I imagine other data tooling would be better. And if they're not, other products like LibreOffice seem viable as direct replacements.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

It's an absolute shit solution but it's being used very widely. And it has certainly led to plenty of fuck ups.

[–] mortimer@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Why is that? Is there just not enough support for exporting existing data across or does Excel have more features?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Every large company has sunk countless hours into training people, designing sheets, writing macros etc. Trying to move all that to a different product would be hugely painful and disruptive to everyday operations, because all of that would have to be redone and relearned. No company is going to do that.