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TLDR: In recent years, as China has suffered from an economic downturn, the rate of random mass attacks has soared. After three random mass killings unfolded in Chinese coastal cities in the last two weeks, some people on social media echoed the official line of harsh punishment, while others called for freedom of expression so that people could express their grievances and the authorities could address their pain in time.

Some also suggested economic reform to boost the employment rate and policy reform, such as social welfare and labour laws, to improve working conditions. In short, people need to see hope for their future.

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However, as anticipated, the Chinese authorities are fixated on their standard social control handbook. While social profiling is common in China through it's social credit system, on Weibo, many said that the Chinese Communist Party’s grassroots branches have started profiling residents into additional categories, namely, “4-without” (四無) and “5-failure” (五失).

The “4-without” are those without a spouse and children, job and regular income, normal social connections, and assets like property and cars. The “5-failure” are those who “fail” in their investments, lives, relationships, and suffer from mental illness.

**The party branches were told to pay special attention to people labelled “4-without” and “5-failure” as they are assumed to have nothing to lose, and thus might be more likely to harm society. **

However, such a measure won’t relieve the social strain. One social media user pointed out that the two social groups are victims of an unjust system and need assistance, rather than further social labels and control.

Having them screened out, and then what, put in jail? [People labelled] 4-without and 5-failure have not broken the law, and almost all of them are in need of economic assistance. The CCP does not have a comprehensive social welfare system, so how can it let these people who are in trouble get through their difficulties? The CCP keeps giving local governments money to solve their debt crisis, and it keeps pumping money into the stability maintenance system, but it is not willing to spend any money to solve the real problem! Shouldn’t the CCP know which is more effective: damming or dredging the river?

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is no acceptable level of indiscriminate violence. Society functions based on the mutual trust that the people walking past you wont randomly attack you. Admitting that the only solution is to make people have less killing potential means that we have given up on the concept of society.

[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Alright, let's go in the other direction. Let's give everyone the nuke launch codes. Admitting that the only solution is a very select few have them is admitting we've given up on society.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ah yes a totally nonsensical off topic straw man. Love to see it. The things i mentioned are very real and not fictional hypotheticals. But i guess thats typical for this topic. Lots of ifs and maybes about this and that but nobody actually wants to look further than an arms reach. I guess the truth that some issues cant be solved with "banning things" is too hard to bear. Just banning things has never ever worked for things like this.

[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's not off topic. It's only nonsense to you because it isn't normalized like gun violence in the United States. We can even scale it back... Let's say mortor rounds and shoulder fired missile/grenade weapons are fully legalized with similar restrictions as current gun laws. What do you think happens then?