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[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

[…] they’re tradesmen and not necessarily critical thinkers.

Are you saying that tradesmen aren't capable of being critical thinkers? Or are you saying that they aren't critical thinkers in spite of being tradesmen?

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm saying these tradesmen don't stop to think that they're voting against their best interest every time they suffer a major setback from a union busting Republican. Am I saying Biden was better? No, but at least he didn't dissolve the air traffic control union through the barrel of a rifle.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I’m saying these tradesmen don’t stop to think that they’re voting against their best interest every time they suffer a major setback from a union busting Republican.

What exactly do you mean by "these tradesman", though? I'm trying to determine if I correctly understood the intent behind your wording as being condescending towards tradesmen.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you're reading too deep into this. They're skilled workers who specialize in some very difficult jobs and had the good sense to unionize to prevent getting fucked too hard by owners and the management class. That said, I don't think most of them realize they're contradicting themselves at the gubernatorial level by electing people who "talk like them" or "tell it like it is" versus someone who at least did the political calculus of siding with them to a small degree on strikes.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Either you're not answering the question, or I am entirely misunderstanding this entire thread. You said:

I hate to say this but they’re tradesmen and not necessarily critical thinkers.

To me, this comes off as extremely condescending — it reads like you are saying that people who are tradesmen are incapable of complex thought (ie critical thinking). I'm simply asking for you to explicitly clarify that statement. If my reading is incorrect, then how would you word it to make it more clear? How you reword it might clarify your intent and explain your following replies.

They’re skilled workers who specialize in some very difficult jobs and had the good sense to unionize to prevent getting fucked too hard by owners and the management class.

Is this statement clarifying the people that you think "aren't critical thinkers"?