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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 56 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Yeah, because it'll tie budgets up for ten years building it, and in the meantime all the fossil fuel people can tap those final nails into our coffin while they line their pockets.

[–] leisesprecher 35 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Ten years? More like twenty. Hinkley point C was started in 2013, supposed to be finished 2023. This year the estimation was corrected to 2029-2031.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (6 children)

Counterpoint: UAE went from zero nuclear energy to producing as much as Denmark or Portugal produce renewables in ten years. From a base of zero nuclear expertise in the country.

[–] leisesprecher 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

And we all know that the UAE are the international beacon of safety, worker's rights, rule of law and cost effectiveness.

That's a really bad argument. That's like saying the Soviet Union was really good at digging canals.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So existing examples that go against your argument dont count because you dont like the country. OK.

[–] leisesprecher 0 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

So countering your argument with counterarguments why your example is flawed isn't allowed, because you'd need to reconsider?

Tell me, do you really think the UAE are willing, not capable, willing to invest in safety and lawfulness as much as any even halfway free country?

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Ok so counter-argument, the UK is also a terrible example when it comes to getting things done (safely or not), our government is even worse than the United States when it comes to intentionally fucking up and delaying things in order to funnel public funds into the hands of donors/cronies. Hell we're already projected to spend more on a high speed rail project that isn't even high speed by the standards of anywhere else on earth than the EU is spending on their entire half a continent spanning rail network upgrades.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Its possible that it was built to a lower standard than would be expected in the west, both in terms of quality and worker safety. Though unless you have specific reports of that I dont see any reason just to assume it because Arabs bad.

In addition this was largely built by Korean companies who have a successful record of building NPPs at home without incident, I imagine Korea wouldnt be particularly happy if their citizens (especially highly trained and economically productive ones) were being abused to build foreign infrastructure.

The main point is that NPPs dont have to be stuck in a quagmire, and using Hinkley Point as a stand in for all NPP construction is disingenuous, just as using the UAE as a sole example would be.

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