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[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -4 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I'm not an psychic, but I'd imagine the more we deport, the more wages will go up. Hopefully in 4 years, we'll be in a much better place.

The biggest side effect would be higher rates for fruit/veggies and for landscaping. But I'd pay extra for fruit I know is grown ethically. I already do, as much as I try.

[–] killingspark 3 points 19 hours ago (11 children)

Setting aside all the other issues, if you think creating a worker shortage (which might increase wages short term) will do anything good for your economy: it won't.

Historically economic growth is pretty closely tied to population growth. More hands create more value. Removing hands will make the remaining hands more valuable but there is still less value created. And the people that hold economic power aren't going to give up their share easily, so one way or another it will eventually mean even less for the workers.

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

There was population growth in the late 1800s, it wasn't until the population got paid more that the economy took off.

[–] killingspark 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

While that's true, the capitalists where getting richer and richer even before the big economic growth. They don't really care. Also, the wage increases had to be hard fought for by a united working class. I don't see american workers unite right now to fight the rich.

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Without exploitable labor employers will have to pay employees more. Workers won't have to fight, they can do nothing and wages will still increase.

[–] killingspark 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They can move production to places with available labour. You know for example the places you deported all that labour to.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Which is where the tariffs come in. Helps balance everything out.

[–] killingspark 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

By making the products more expensive while your wages stagnate? How's that balancing anything out?

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Why will wages stagnante?

A rising tide raises all boats or in this case wages.

[–] killingspark 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Not if the work follows the workers outside of the US

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] killingspark 1 points 4 hours ago

You must have missed my response to that

https://lemm.ee/post/47845390/16368689

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