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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

"Neoliberal shill" who has achieved more leftist policy goals in three and a half years than all US leftists combined have in the last 30.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I don't know whether or not that is true, but it is meaningless without considering what the other hand has also done in that period. You have to consider the net effect, not pick out isolated examples. Has the rate of wealth disparity growth even stopped increasing under Biden?

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 3 months ago

I get this. Democrats are not left enough for me but all said and done I would love to live in a world where carter had a second term and a gore administration was running things for the top of the millenium and have hilary over trump and who knows she might have surprised us with some good stuff but at the least we would not have left the paris accords which might have done better with gore and no iraq invasion. maybe we would have had a war on global warming.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I don’t know whether or not that is true, but it is meaningless without considering what the other hand has also done in that period.

So you don't actually know if it's true but you have vague feelings that it's not what you want so therefore it's not true. Ok then.

[–] 2484345508@lemy.lol 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Can a president realistically control that? They don’t control inflation.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes. They can drive party policy goals through presidential policy.

[–] 2484345508@lemy.lol 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That’s influence, not control. It’s not always effective and parties rarely align.

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Printing a shitload of money and calling it "inflation reduction" is certainly the wrong way to help.

[–] 2484345508@lemy.lol 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree. Every president back to GWB did. (24 years).

We should burn that amount of money. Which is approximately $19.95 Trillion. Then recoup it from the rich as wealth tax.

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's a shortsighted take that prioritizes punishing rich people over fixing systemic issues.

[–] 2484345508@lemy.lol 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don't let it make you support bad policies.

[–] 2484345508@lemy.lol 2 points 3 months ago

It’s not bad policy.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Undoing fascist rules put in by the previous resident does not count as achieving "leftist policy goals"; implementation of permanent law does.

Meanwhile, people have lost abortion rights, the rule of law has basically been suspended for potential coup participants. So yeah, I'm just gonna say we're not doing well. Meanwhile, I'm still going to vote Biden no matter what. We've already lost the democracy, but I'm going to delay the implementation of the far right authoritarian state for as long as possible.

[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But abortion rights were lost because people refused to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Do you really feel that this is a relevant thing to say to someone who says they're voting for biden even if he's 6ft underground?

[–] grozzle@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a reply button, not a disagree button.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Ok, that made me chuckle

[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I'm not saying it to you. I'm responding to your comment.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There hasn't been anything close to a leftist president in America since FDR.

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 7 points 3 months ago

Ah yes, FDR, who rounded up Japanese Americans and put them in ~~concentration~~ internment camps.

Which is a rather interesting parallel to Biden and Palestine, or Biden and US border patrol, or Biden and law enforcement.

All that to say it's probably not possible to be the US president and not do heinously evil shit, and therefore voting for president needs to be strategic, pragmatic, and nuanced, rather than ideological

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There hasn’t been anything close to a leftist president in America since FDR.

How FDR Saved Capitalism | Hoover Institution

During the economic crisis of the 1930s, many expected a socialist revolution. The revolution never came. Why? The man in the White House co-opted the left. By Hoover fellow Seymour Martin Lipset and Gary Marks.

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[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Lmao i didnt call him a leftist.

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