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[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The issue is that the Venn diagram of people interested in vikings/odinism and racists bigots is almost just a circle

[–] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I enjoyed the Vikings tv series, particularly the early seasons with Ragnar. I especially liked when they wove in religion and mysticism into the episodes. A lot of people enjoyed the series at the time, it was objectively popular. Having an interest in something well represented in popular culture does not make you a de facto racist bigot.

There's a more likely argument to make, that within the population of white nationalist racist bigots, there's an overrepresentation of interest/obsession with Vikings/Odinism.

[–] Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is hyperbole. A large amount of racists and bigots are into norse stuff? Maybe. Almost all people in the norse stuff are racists and bigots? High doubt, and shouldn't be allowed to be coopted anyway. Loki is one of the few ancient figures with some gender fluid markings as it is.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You're right, but 100% of the people I've encountered that were REALLY into Norse stuff specifically, rather than a general interest in history, were white supremacist.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's a really small sample size and small point of view, isn't it?

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago

Most anecdotes are.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 3 days ago

I'm interested in Norse mythology for stories like the time Thor had to wear a dress to get back his hammer. I bet he looked hot in that dress.

[–] Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

This is fair. I am usually not in spaces where I'd see it much but have heard tell. Part of why I say it is to not have people feel shamed if they just generally like the culture/pop aesthetic involved without any baggage and to encourage people to do what they can to counter co-opt attempts

[–] Darohan@lemmy.zip 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not sure I believe that for a minute. There's definitely a group there, nobody can deny that, but Norse mythology is incredibly popular among leftists too - I say this as somewhat of a Norse mythology leftist, whose favorite viking/odinist/pagan band preaches unity and kindness among all people and is fronted by a polyamorous bisexual - there's a lot to love in the mythos and the factual history, and it appeals to a wide variety of people for a wide variety of reasons.

[–] riot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What band is that? I'm always interested in checking out new music.