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[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

this is unfair exploitation of mental illness.

Mike Lindell is an American hero with a story of success, making a great pillow everyone loved and making himself wealthy in the process

his religious delusions are a form of either mental illness or partial handicap and he shouldn't be stripped of everything because of that

his belief that the election was rigged AND he had the secret proof (that would hold up to court scrutiny) was clearly a religious delusion and if you think otherwise you don't understand how cults and mental illnesses intertwine

in a just world, this deal should be something he doesn't have to honor because he offered this "prove me wrong" thing to the public when he was clearly out of it

what about all the people he employed? the people he made happy with a decent pillow? we as a society have failed by allowing the religiously delusional to enter into any sort of unusual contracts at all. yes, the amish should be allowed to sell grain and the menonites should be allowed to sell delicious jams, but should we really allow right wing religious maniacs to enter into complex contracts?

no, of course not

this man should be given ALL his money back, and an apology from society for exploiting him. this man worked hard in life and doesn't deserve this

[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, the options seem to be "this man is mentally ill, he needs to enter adult conservatorship" or "this man is an adult, who made a contract, and is being held to a contract"

He doesnt seem to be so far gone he needs a conservator, so his contracts are valid.

[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

there needs to be some sort of space between "this person needs a conservator and can't have any rights" and "this is a logical rational person who can contractually give away 5 million dollars because he's filled with religious delusions"

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It sucks, but there is a lot of precedent in the US for "you are allowed to be as stupid with your money as you want, as long as you're sane."

He may have delusions around his religion or beliefs, but he has the rights to have those delusions and beliefs, and if he wants to place bets on his beliefs because he holds them that strongly then he can. If someone else spots him as a mark and takes advantage of him, sure it was dumb of him, and they may not be in the cleanest moral area, but that's America, learn your lesson and move on.

You go to New York and some guy sells you a newspaper that helps raise money for charity and the homeless for $5 and you believe him then find out it's a free paper all over the city, that's life.

We can protect you when you don't know any better, but when you bet everyone in the room that you can fly and you can't? That's a hard bet to make buddy, and a harder bill to pay.

[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The reality is he is an older American and 5 million dollars is a lot, it's not a 5 dollar bill. This is exploitation and society is only allowing it because he's a right wing religious idiot.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The guy held a contest for $5M. Why are you defending him for not paying out? He is supposed to be credible, no?

[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No one of even mild to low intelligence thinks Mike Lindell is a credible person.

This is a person who had a positive attitude and made a lot of money making pillows, then got older. He is religious and religion and aging affected his brain, especially because he's clearly not that bright to begin with as evidenced by his religious beliefs. Plenty of people do well in society without being that intelligent because they have a positive attitude.

Stripping this person of 5 million dollars is a form of laissez-faire elder abuse wrapped in the artifice of polite society and it's blatantly vile.

Just because he's a disgusting right-wing religious idiot doesn't mean that elder abuse is acceptable, and intelligent people in society should have the decency to prevent this sort of thing from happening.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Mmmm except whatever shibboleths you may utter against "right-wing religious idiots", comments like yours help those idiots and others like them by giving them a sort of 'cognitive plausible deniability' to get up to whatever evil shit they've been getting up to and worse.

Like it's so obviously minimizing real evil - the evil UNDERNEATH shit like this 'innocent little contest', genius - under a shield of "d'aww shucks those pesky white nationalists are up to their hijinx again, those silly knuckleheads".

So in that context, you talking about 'disgusting right-wing idiots' comes off as a real fellowkids moment for you.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I genuinely can't tell if the downvotes are because people think you're serious, or because people think you're joking, or because people can't tell if you're serious or joking.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago

Its hard to tell sometimes because I have seen diatribes almost exactly like that, but completely serious.