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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

What? Single issue voters absolutely were important ... Gaza for one.

I'm not fucking talking about 3rd party candidates or platforms, my God

Edit ultimately introspection comes second because this was a "vote for bad or worse" election and no matter the cause, no matter if you think someone or bluemaga or the moon is to blame, folks rolled the dice instead of avoiding trump. It's not victimizing to discuss that decisions have consequences.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I just want you to know how much I appreciate you continuously putting on the kind of behavior I'm trying to describe on display. Its going to make an easily accessible record for future generations to develop an understanding both why and how the Democratic party, their voices in media, and their sycophants in forums and on social media sacrificed the project of western Democracy for a self-serving circle jerk to avoid personal accountability for the obvious and inevitable consequences of their actions.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Personal accountability? Hilarious. Next 4 years will have enough of that for everyone. It's great to imagine being clean because of an opinionated stance but that's not real life.

The suggestion that abstainers or stein posters represented real opportunity to avoid trump in say, October 2024 is the most ivory tower dream ive ever seen. (I am not quoting you on that, I am discussing the sentiment that optionality existed in a general election year in a FPTP entrenched duopoly.)

Edit constructively, as I previously mentioned, 3rd party change needs to happen now, in 2025, to grow consensus and post results. That will represent positive change.

It's funny that you think I'm all in on big-DNC, but the reality is I am just eyes open on the choices I had in this election. And am aware of the consequences we now have at hand.