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[–] RawrGuthlaf@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

A large chunk of the population gets their info from Fox News and News Max etc. Many of my extended family unfortunately. They think that is reliable information and can't be convinced otherwise. When I try to bring up facts they give me this look like I'm the crazy one spreading the lies. It's a really sad state of affairs, they are genuinely good people otherwise. I think there are too many assumptions that people just wanted what we're about to get.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sorry no. If they voted for trump they’re not good people. They’re either assholes or too stupid to be making decisions for the country.

Anyone who votes for mass deportation is not a good person. Anyone who votes to take away health care from a huge chunk of the population is also not a good person.

[–] RawrGuthlaf@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's an environment issue for them, their belief system and past experiences shape their decisions. The DNC had opportunities for real change and did not take them, and that feeds into the establishment/ "drain the swamp" rhetoric. Calling people stupid isn't going to help anything, they are heavily misinformed and tuned out living in a busy world. I don't give them a full pass here, but if we're going to change anything we need to figure out how to communicate with this segment and recognize their grievances.

[–] VoterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Thing is, normalizing stupidity and shitiness doesn't help anything either. It actively makes things worse. I don't know what the actual answer is to improving things with that kind of person though. I just think pretending that being a shitbag is acceptable behavior ain't it.

[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 0 points 4 days ago

Or they just don't watch the news entirely. There was a spike insearches on election day of 'Did Biden drop out?' These people are completely out of the loop on everything and yet voting.