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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Dude should maybe consider seeing a doctor about his "hand".

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is about others not taking depression seriously. The difficulty in getting treatment is another matter.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thats why they put hand in quotes.... it was sarcasm implying that the character needs to see a doctor about his depression

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yes, I know. As I said, not the point of the comic.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The others would probably take his problem a lot more seriously if he had at least tried to get it fixed. If you are going to walk around with a mangled blood gushing hand for a prolonged period of time, without seeking help, then you should probably stop whining about it, because I can't do anything for you. I can't force you to go to a doctor.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A lot of these comments are really proving the point of the comic. Nowhere does it say that anybody took his ailment seriously, yet it's the victim who's at fault.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To wit: everyone in the comic is dismissive of the ailment; none offers any real help or empathy.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Correct. And many of the comments immediately jump to (probably personal) experiences where a friend or loved one had depression and despite their best efforts to help, they were unable to. That's not what this comic is about.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The victim isn't at fault for being depressed, or having a mangled hand, or whatever analogy we want to use. However, if they go out with friends and expect them to take the problem more seriously than they, themselves, are taking it, then they have some measure of fault for imposing their problem on the friend. If they are seeking treatment that just isn't working, or they are unable to get proper treatment for other reasons, that's a different story and I'll have a lot more sympathy.

It all boils down to not expecting someone to take your problem seriously for long if you are not taking it seriously yourself.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"You don't take your depression seriously enough for me" helps me to understand where some people who don't understand (or don't care to understand) depression at all are coming from.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe the real lesson is that a mangled hand actively gushing blood isn't really a great analogy for depression.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It's a very imperfect one, yes. But the comic is trusting that the reader will understand the metaphor. A big ask for some, it seems.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you are going to walk around with a mangled blood gushing hand for a prolonged period of time, without seeking help

Some wounds don't heal.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

If the comic suggested that he sought help in the past and it wasn't working, it would be a much better analogy. Unfortunately, we only know what's actually shown.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

This would be the correct response when you met them.
Which shows you have the right idea.

Instead of this comment, which is victim blaming.
You are presenting yourself as the same as all the other characters in the comic.

The correct response would be "none of the other characters told them to get help, or tried to help them".